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Do you think that suffering is a way of purification or do you think that purification is a way to get rid of pain?
Do you know that some people think that suffering is a way of purification in order to get rid of suffering. So, you have to suffer to get rid of suffering at end. What do you think?

I think that suffering is a way of purification because it removes your attachment to material things. It gives you the ability to go above and beyond your physical capabilities. It helps you have a stronger self control over your physcial, mental, and spiritual capabilities.

I think that in this book his purification was a way to get rid of his pain. Do I believe in this kind of suffering, no. Do I believe in fasting or similar things for purification, yes. It is amazing what can come of fasting or just meditation.

Gold is melted as part of its purification process, hence heated situations may do the same for humankind.

I don't think of suffering as a way to purify. Not at all. I think if you need to hurt yourself, you aren't dealing with the real problem. It is a short cut to relief. It may bring relief, but is not the only way.

In the book, I believe he thought that was the best way to end his emotional pain. However, to me, I believe he was just suppressing the pain and not dealing with it. It might be temporary. It is tough to really answer. The book is a fantasy and his pain stems from very different circumstances.

In the book, I think he just used physical pain as a means of suppressing his emotional pain.

I think that suffering through emotional or physical pain can both be considered forms of purification. Anytime we strive to change something, we have to put work into it. This work, most of the time, is physically or emotionally challenging and may cause suffering. Same goes for the purification process but probably at a more intense rate, hence more suffering. Purification is a hard process to undertake. It is a grueling task that requires you to take out every single bit of the "impurity" to be truly pure. So with that, I believe for something to be truly pure there has to be some kind of suffering to go along with it. It's an important battle to overcome.

I feel that remorse or guilt can be expressed mentally itself. Self-punishment need not be physical and does not have to cause visible pain, as long as you are aware of your wrongdoings.

Suffering doesn't purify your body. Suffering only temporarily releases your emotional pain by the physical pain involved. I believe that he only suffered the physical pain because he couldn't deal with the emotional pain.

shnasko1 wrote:Suffering doesn't purify your body. Suffering only temporarily releases your emotional pain by the physical pain involved. I believe that he only suffered the physical pain because he couldn't deal with the emotional pain.

True...it's only a 'pseudo' cleansing. Suffering might divert your mind from the emotional pain but can't heal or purify it.

suffering may sometime purrify our bodies the same way paul says i no longer live but christ in me lives...paul had gone through alot untill he could not even have bodily desires ..his physical body died....so suffering sometime purifies our body

In the book,I believe he uses physical pain to suppress his emotional pain and I do not think that he was sane at these times.

I believe that everyone is entitled to their opinion, but torturing yourself to get cleansed doesn't settle with me. I'd rather go for Yoga or something more peaceful. Also, that scene in the prologue reminded me of the Da Vinci's Code!

my perception of suffering from s biblical context has nothing to do with purification but rather as a matter of perfecting faith. in the end it's all about God receiving the glory as opposed to us presenting ourselves as objects of pity