The author's inspiration.
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Re: The author's inspiration.
Alice: "I'm afraid so. You're entirely bonkers. But I'll tell you a secret. All the best people are.”
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nooregano wrote: ↑21 May 2019, 01:43Yes, Judas is always judged harshly, and I'd also say it's good to build compassion for the "vilified" religious ideas/figures, since I believe they are supposed to be reflections of what humanity itself is capable of.sri varshini303041 wrote: ↑04 May 2019, 01:11 The book holds some controversial theories but, I believe everyone should be given the chance to voice their opinions. There are always several perceptions of religious ideas and figures. Judas's character had so many good qualities but he was judged only by his grave mistake and his greed for wealth. Maybe, it was his destiny to betray Jesus, and we must accept that man's destiny has God's participation. I also must express, that I am not really convinced by the Gnostic theories present in this book.
You are right... Good and evil are all within us and everything should be discussed without taboo.
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First there is independent historical evidence for JesusSahansdal wrote: ↑10 May 2019, 15:08Cecilia,Cecilia_L wrote: ↑03 May 2019, 21:26 I also got the impression that the author was inspired by Gnostic beliefs. I once heard a very thought-provoking sermon suggesting how Judas's life would have differed if had waited three days rather than acting on impulses. I feel compassion for Judas, but I don't agree he was the Savior.
I am the author. There was no Judas! I am absolutely certain of this. He was a literary creation to hide James. James was a savior, the one I think followed John the Baptist. (Many saviors makes more sense than just one, and I go into it in both my books.) This is the theme of the book. Did you read it? I have read extensively on this and spent years researching it. Jesus was, I believe, a composite character, assembled from details of John and James. There is zero independent historical evidence for Jesus. The New Testament is fiction, not history.
https://ehrmanblog.org/gospel-evidence- ... nt-page-2/
second I understand why christians wanted to hide james but why would gospel of judas want to hide him when gospel of thomas doesnt?
Third your idea that jesus is just a composite character just pushes the argument back some. If there was no evidence for jesus what evidence is there of john and james?
Ehrman is one of the best gnostic scholars in the world. Here is his take on judas.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIXwSjyxe88
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[21] When Jesus had thus said, he was troubled in spirit, and testified, and said, Verily, verily, I say unto you, that one of you shall betray me.
[22] Then the disciples looked one on another, doubting of whom he spake.
[23] Now there was leaning on Jesus' bosom one of his disciples, whom Jesus loved.
[24] Simon Peter therefore beckoned to him, that he should ask who it should be of whom he spake.
[25] He then lying on Jesus' breast saith unto him, Lord, who is it?
[26] Jesus answered, He it is, to whom I shall give a sop, when I have dipped it. And when he had dipped the sop, he gave it to Judas Iscariot, the son of Simon.
[27] And after the sop Satan entered into him. Then said Jesus unto him, That thou doest, do quickly.
So if The disciple whom Jesus loved is actually James (He is ) How is he also Judas (He isnt)?
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The narrative doesn't say he didn't give it to the "disciple whom Jesus loved" -- because he did. Judas and James were one and the same character. This is all made up stuff, the Betrayal.Incidentally, there is another, more reliable translation of verse 24. "TELL who it is of whom he spake" is the original. It means that Peter deferred to the disciple whom Jesus loved, and he was the higher ranking James.jlrinc wrote: ↑29 May 2019, 23:49 here is a scene from john 13
[21] When Jesus had thus said, he was troubled in spirit, and testified, and said, Verily, verily, I say unto you, that one of you shall betray me.
[22] Then the disciples looked one on another, doubting of whom he spake.
[23] Now there was leaning on Jesus' bosom one of his disciples, whom Jesus loved.
[24] Simon Peter therefore beckoned to him, that he should ask who it should be of whom he spake.
[25] He then lying on Jesus' breast saith unto him, Lord, who is it?
[26] Jesus answered, He it is, to whom I shall give a sop, when I have dipped it. And when he had dipped the sop, he gave it to Judas Iscariot, the son of Simon.
[27] And after the sop Satan entered into him. Then said Jesus unto him, That thou doest, do quickly.
So if The disciple whom Jesus loved is actually James (He is ) How is he also Judas (He isnt)?
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Rather, it might be the other way around. Eastern mysticism is very ancient.
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"Uganda martyrs that were killed by Mukajjanga on the orders of Kabaka Mwanga, that we as ugandans and even international people come to Namugongo Shrine in Kampala on 3rd June every year to remember them," this also is the same incident as Judas. If Mukajjanga didn't do that, then we wouldn't know about the Ugandan Martyrs.
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