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I am open to Greenwood's view that the days of creation may not be seven days. I am also familiar with the text in the scriptures which says that a day is like 1000 years. This is the first that I have seen this view but whether it took 7 or longer does not change my belief that God created everything.
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I believe that the construct of time during the "days" of Creation was put in a simpler term for a layman to understand. It takes years for something to evolve and I wonder how so much w as accomplished in one "day" during that time.
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B Creech wrote: 02 Aug 2019, 03:28 That's something I believe no one can say for sure. The Bible says "one day is with the Lord as a thousand years and a thousand years as one day " (KJV) 2 Peter 3:8. I don't think God goes by a "time" as we know it. This is just one of the great mysteries in the Bible, in my humble opinion!
I strongly agree. God's timing is totally different from our definition of 'time' as humans.
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If a day is the period of time between one sunrise and the next, then it's safe to say that the concept of "day" didn't exist at first when there was no light. It makes more sense to me that the 7 days of the creation may not have been literal days.
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I've read a few books that suggest that the 7 days weren't actual days, whether they believe it's 7 god days or 7 seconds or another measure, I think it's a common and very interesting view
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I agree with the author. 7 days could be taken literally or in another way entirely, depending on the person. We don’t really know and probably will never know what the words precisely meant. However, the message was still conveyed, and that’s what matters most.
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Jsovermyer wrote: 01 Aug 2019, 15:16 Do you agree with Val Greenwood's view that the 7 days of the creation may not have been literal days? He says we can't be sure how long the time periods actually were. What do you think?
I agree with Val's view. The 7 days of creation are not literal 24hrs days. Inline with 2 peter 3:8, it states that "one day is with God as a thousand years and a thousand years as one day." Therefore, based on that fact we can conclude the creation period was 7000 years and not 7 literal 24hr days.
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Nerea wrote: 05 Aug 2019, 14:57
Jsovermyer wrote: 01 Aug 2019, 15:16 Do you agree with Val Greenwood's view that the 7 days of the creation may not have been literal days? He says we can't be sure how long the time periods actually were. What do you think?
I agree with Val's view. The 7 days of creation are not literal 24hrs days. Inline with 2 peter 3:8, it states that "one day is with God as a thousand years and a thousand years as one day." Therefore, based on that fact we can conclude the creation period was 7000 years and not 7 literal 24hr days.
I like your interpretation. It makes more sense to me.
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I studied in a secular school for most of my life and it wasn't until I was in university that someone finally brought up this idea. I agree, the 7 "days" of creation could've been any measure of time. I think it's a good way to balance the ideas of the Church with the idea of evolution and science.
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I think to question the length of the days is to completely miss the point of the Creation Story. Wether God created the earth in seven seconds, seven days, or seven years, the fact still remains that everything was created out of nothing. The point isn't time. (God is outside of time, so there's a fun mind-bender) The point is God's power, the point is that God sustained creation as He added to it until He had created a masterpiece of ecosystems that worked perfectly together. The point is that this story shows off the majesty and infinite power of God as He creates reality as we know it. The seven days... that's just a fun fact.
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I think many people interpret genesis in this way, so I wasn't surprised that the author said the seven days may not be literal. Especially with our increasing knowledge of evolution, more people are becoming open to this idea.
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I agree because there isn't really prove on how many "days" this time period really was. All we know is what we have read in the Bible
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I don't think that the 7 different days of creation were actually 7 days. Mostly because at that period, the length of a day might have been quite different to what it is now.
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As time is a human creation, I agree that "seven days" is probably not seven 24 hour days.
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I think the seven days of creation correspond to different epochs in evolution. The OT narratives were derived from several oral traditions which were based on the myths prevalent in Mesopotamia. The Jews were divinely inspired to give meaning to those primitive myths to express God's revelation in their own faith.
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