Did this book change your views on the Vietnam war?
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Re: Did this book change your views on the Vietnam war?
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I agree. Somehow the "why" becomes much less important in retrospect.Manali_DC wrote: ↑19 Nov 2019, 00:29 Having recently returned from a trip to Vietnam, I saw and heard the stories of the War first hand. Visited the tunnels used for the guerrilla fighting and went to the War museum. It was horrifying to see the destruction and devastation of the war and the effects of Agent Orange! Wars are messy and horrible and after you have seen what war does to the people, you can never understand "Why" it was fought in the first place!
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Dispatches by Michael Herr (the book on which the movie Full Metal Jacket is based) gave me a fascination with the Vietnam War I'd never had before. It was a war of lies, and I think that's what makes it so different from others in US history. We're seeing more wars like that today - impossible to glorify.
Man got to sit and wonder 'why, why, why?'
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Zach’s reflections on how the civilians in Vietnam were innocent people mixed up in a mess opened my eyes as well. In war, it always seems like the news broadcasts about the bad guys getting killed, but we don’t think a lot about the everyday people just trying to make a life who lose everything to war.
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I don't understand to what end the war was fought? Innocent people, properties, resources, etc. All gone for nothing. Well, I'm grateful I wasn't born in the era of the wars. Very terrible.Herbstlicht wrote: ↑13 Nov 2019, 04:14 Wars are messy, and we can consider ourselves lucky if we only read about it in books. I love reading military novels, as it brings me one step closer to understanding wars and people, as history is often biased and only one-sided.
What are the things you learned about the Vietnam war that you weren't familiar with? To me, it became clear (once again!) how quick we are to judge the people living under a communist rule without properly understanding they are also victims of their system. I also learned about how unfair even the "just" system can become towards people who have risked their lives and their entire existence. And unfortunately, the "why" still isn't clear to me. Why this war was fought, who won, and whether it was worth it all.
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I can't imagine the terror.DC Brown wrote: ↑14 Nov 2019, 02:07 Yes, this has changed my view of the Vietnam conflict. I was a teen during the Vietnam WAR. We saw it on the news every night. It didn't affect me then, but this book has now. It was pointed out that the men in Washington only directed the war as if it was a stage for the enlisted men to play on. What a travesty this war was and all the other wars that have been fought through the ages.
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I had two older brothers who were in Vietnam. The never talked about it either. I have learned so much from this book that I didn't know.DC Brown wrote: ↑14 Nov 2019, 02:12I had family that fought in Vietnam. They have never talked about it. Even though it was front and center every night on the news, I did not know much of what this book brought out. The Navy? Millions of gallons of Agent Orange? Desalinators on the ships that concentrated the runoff? I knew none of those things.Herbstlicht wrote: ↑13 Nov 2019, 04:14 Wars are messy, and we can consider ourselves lucky if we only read about it in books. I love reading military novels, as it brings me one step closer to understanding wars and people, as history is often biased and only one-sided.
What are the things you learned about the Vietnam war that you weren't familiar with? To me, it became clear (once again!) how quick we are to judge the people living under a communist rule without properly understanding they are also victims of their system. I also learned about how unfair even the "just" system can become towards people who have risked their lives and their entire existence. And unfortunately, the "why" still isn't clear to me. Why this war was fought, who won, and whether it was worth it all.
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