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father
Posted: 05 Feb 2020, 00:33
by Samantha Shinn
The fact that Adam's father was killed when everyone believed that it was Dauma's husband shook me. I wonder why Dauma did not do anything to stop it. What do you guys think? Is she selfish? or was it unstoppable? Do you think she should have had better control of her emotions and power? I thought, as the leader, she would have much better control. What do you think?
Re: father
Posted: 05 Feb 2020, 19:37
by Brenda Creech
I thought she would have better control of her power also. However, she didn't know at the time if her husband was alive or dead; if that was him, would they release him? We show signs of grief in any situation of loss or potential loss, and anger is one of the five signs of grief. I think she just became overwhelmed with the stress of it all, somehow sensed it wasn't her husband, and spun out of control. She didn't set out to kill anyone, and I don't believe it was out of selfishness, I just think she fought hard to win the battle and there were consequences!
Re: father
Posted: 05 Feb 2020, 21:05
by Sangeetha+Narayan
Grief can do that to you. Drive you totally insane to the point of being destructive. No matter how strong a person you are, the thought of losing a loved one can turn you in to anything. I felt so sad for Dauma! The author covered quite a range of emotions.
Re: father
Posted: 06 Feb 2020, 16:00
by Nym182
I thought that her lack of control made her a more interesting character - it's nice to know that someone perceived as being so powerful and being a leader could have flaws too!
Re: father
Posted: 06 Feb 2020, 19:39
by ciecheesemeister
Mark seemed like a weak character (his cheating and gaslighting his wife) but I thought his death was a bit harsh. Perhaps it was supposed to illustrate that Adam had gained the ability to feel remorse, even about the death of a person whom he had a contentious relationship with.
Re: father
Posted: 07 Feb 2020, 13:55
by Nym182
ciecheesemeister wrote: ↑06 Feb 2020, 19:39
Mark seemed like a weak character (his cheating and gaslighting his wife) but I thought his death was a bit harsh. Perhaps it was supposed to illustrate that Adam had gained the ability to feel remorse, even about the death of a person whom he had a contentious relationship with.
I also felt that his death/character was treated very harshly... Especially considering he wasn't involved with the bond between Jo and Adam... That really could have made him feel left out, (which Adams distaste for him didn't help) which could have lead to his cheating... (obviously I am not condoning what he did) I just kinda felt his character was created just for adam to hate and that's it... his character could have been developed a bit more... I think it would have been interesting if Adam had a decent relationship with him That would have caused more turmoil within adam after finding out that he cheating on his mom. Instead, his cheating just proved Adam right.
Re: father
Posted: 11 Feb 2020, 09:14
by Howlan
I think Dauma though a powerful character was deeply in stress. With the Descendants council and her kidnapped husband she had much to worry about. Besides that deep in her heart, she somehow knew that her husband was dead. When she saw Adam's father as a hostage her worst suspicions became true and she went out of control out of grief.
Re: father
Posted: 11 Feb 2020, 09:19
by Howlan
Nym182 wrote: ↑07 Feb 2020, 13:55
ciecheesemeister wrote: ↑06 Feb 2020, 19:39
Mark seemed like a weak character (his cheating and gaslighting his wife) but I thought his death was a bit harsh. Perhaps it was supposed to illustrate that Adam had gained the ability to feel remorse, even about the death of a person whom he had a contentious relationship with.
I also felt that his death/character was treated very harshly... Especially considering he wasn't involved with the bond between Jo and Adam... That really could have made him feel left out, (which Adams distaste for him didn't help) which could have lead to his cheating... (obviously I am not condoning what he did) I just kinda felt his character was created just for adam to hate and that's it... his character could have been developed a bit more... I think it would have been interesting if Adam had a decent relationship with him That would have caused more turmoil within adam after finding out that he cheating on his mom. Instead, his cheating just proved Adam right.
Yes, when finally Adam came to his senses and thought that he needs to deal properly with his father, he was killed off. The author wasted a huge subplot to carelessly killing Adam's father.
Re: father
Posted: 11 Feb 2020, 09:30
by Salma_asa
I think she was careful and sincere. She tried enough to protect the hostage even after knowing it was not her husband. It was an accident that he died.
Re: father
Posted: 11 Feb 2020, 19:52
by Ria710
I thought the death of Mark was unexpected, I really didn't see any point of killing him off because by that point Adam and Jo didn't like him.
Re: father
Posted: 12 Feb 2020, 14:57
by Nym182
Ria710 wrote: ↑11 Feb 2020, 19:52
I thought the death of Mark was unexpected, I really didn't see any point of killing him off because by that point Adam and Jo didn't like him.
It seemed like the only reason for killing him was to give Adam something to feel regret about... maybe trying to show how much he has changed?
I wasn't a fan of it though...
Re: father
Posted: 12 Feb 2020, 18:11
by Corina Elena
I agree with what everyone is saying. She couldn't control her emotions...
Re: father
Posted: 13 Feb 2020, 03:38
by Howlan
Ria710 wrote: ↑11 Feb 2020, 19:52
I thought the death of Mark was unexpected, I really didn't see any point of killing him off because by that point Adam and Jo didn't like him.
Yes, there was absolutely no point in Adam's father dying and I can't understand his point. It was shown time and Again that Adam's father loved him but in spite of that he was killed off like an unused potential.
Re: father
Posted: 13 Feb 2020, 03:39
by Howlan
corinaelena wrote: ↑12 Feb 2020, 18:11
I agree with what everyone is saying. She couldn't control her emotions...
She was suicidal from that point onwards.
Re: father
Posted: 13 Feb 2020, 06:45
by Corina Elena
Howlan wrote: ↑13 Feb 2020, 03:39
corinaelena wrote: ↑12 Feb 2020, 18:11
I agree with what everyone is saying. She couldn't control her emotions...
She was suicidal from that point onwards.
I actually like the way the emotional life ia tackled in this book. You can tell the author has some knowledge on the issue