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Karly Vs Vadam
Posted: 15 Feb 2020, 11:03
by Nym182
Kane and Carly (=Karly) have a very strong bond. Kane is Carly's best friend (besides Adam) and a lot of drama was caused when he kissed her.
Val and Adam form a quick yet powerful bond as well.
It seems that there has been some justification of Kane and Carly maintaining their friendship after the kiss because Adam has a female friend as well.
Adam decides to not give Kane a "hard time" about the kiss because he has Val for a friend... However, Adam also mentions that he doesn't think Val is attracted to men, meaning she's not the same "threat" Kane is.
Does this change the way you see the relationships? Should her and Adam's friendship be used to forgive Kane for kissing his girlfriend considering he and Val (most likely) will never have that type of attraction?
Re: Karly Vs Vadam
Posted: 15 Feb 2020, 13:48
by Howlan
I think Adam did what he did not confront Kane himself was quite mature. I think he knew that doing so, would result in Carly losing Kane's friendship which she treasured a lot.
Re: Karly Vs Vadam
Posted: 16 Feb 2020, 19:42
by Brenda Creech
I think when Adam and Val formed a friendship so quickly maybe it helped Adam to see that there can be just friendship between the opposite sex. Granted, he thinks Val isn't attracted to guys but Carly doesn't give him a hard time over his and Val's friendship so perhaps that opened his eyes about Carly and Kane. Sometimes the more you object to something the apter it is to push two people together!
Re: Karly Vs Vadam
Posted: 17 Feb 2020, 04:01
by OfficialEmma
The relationships were kind of weird, but that added more intrigue to the tale. I think Adam not going direct at Kane for kissing his girlfriend was sensible. After all, Kane didn't force the kiss on her.
Re: Karly Vs Vadam
Posted: 18 Feb 2020, 10:27
by Nym182
Howlan wrote: ↑15 Feb 2020, 13:48
I think Adam did what he did not confront Kane himself was quite mature. I think he knew that doing so, would result in Carly losing Kane's friendship which she treasured a lot.
I do think that it was mature, I just don't find that level of maturity in high schoolers realistic.
Re: Karly Vs Vadam
Posted: 18 Feb 2020, 10:28
by Nym182
B Creech wrote: ↑16 Feb 2020, 19:42
I think when Adam and Val formed a friendship so quickly maybe it helped Adam to see that there can be just friendship between the opposite sex. Granted, he thinks Val isn't attracted to guys but Carly doesn't give him a hard time over his and Val's friendship so perhaps that opened his eyes about Carly and Kane. Sometimes the more you object to something the apter it is to push two people together!
That is an excellent point!
Re: Karly Vs Vadam
Posted: 18 Feb 2020, 10:29
by Nym182
OfficialEmma wrote: ↑17 Feb 2020, 04:01
The relationships were kind of weird, but that added more intrigue to the tale. I think Adam not going direct at Kane for kissing his girlfriend was sensible. After all, Kane didn't force the kiss on her.
True, I just don't find that sensibility realistic for high schoolers... at least it wasn't in the high schoolers I knew/wa

Re: Karly Vs Vadam
Posted: 18 Feb 2020, 13:35
by OfficialEmma
Nym182 wrote: ↑18 Feb 2020, 10:29
OfficialEmma wrote: ↑17 Feb 2020, 04:01
The relationships were kind of weird, but that added more intrigue to the tale. I think Adam not going direct at Kane for kissing his girlfriend was sensible. After all, Kane didn't force the kiss on her.
True, I just don't find that sensibility realistic for high schoolers... at least it wasn't in the high schoolers I knew/wa
LOL. True. Normally, a high school boyfriend will put up a fight. Kids!

Re: Karly Vs Vadam
Posted: 18 Feb 2020, 13:38
by Nym182
OfficialEmma wrote: ↑18 Feb 2020, 13:35
Nym182 wrote: ↑18 Feb 2020, 10:29
OfficialEmma wrote: ↑17 Feb 2020, 04:01
The relationships were kind of weird, but that added more intrigue to the tale. I think Adam not going direct at Kane for kissing his girlfriend was sensible. After all, Kane didn't force the kiss on her.
True, I just don't find that sensibility realistic for high schoolers... at least it wasn't in the high schoolers I knew/wa
LOL. True. Normally, a high school boyfriend will put up a fight. Kids!
right? I've stayed mad about less for a longer period of time haha
Re: Karly Vs Vadam
Posted: 18 Feb 2020, 15:49
by Howlan
OfficialEmma wrote: ↑17 Feb 2020, 04:01
The relationships were kind of weird, but that added more intrigue to the tale. I think Adam not going direct at Kane for kissing his girlfriend was sensible. After all, Kane didn't force the kiss on her.
Yes especially since he is so hot-blooded and possessive about Carly, it is a surprise to see the sensible side of him.
Re: Karly Vs Vadam
Posted: 19 Feb 2020, 17:10
by OfficialEmma
Howlan wrote: ↑18 Feb 2020, 15:49
OfficialEmma wrote: ↑17 Feb 2020, 04:01
The relationships were kind of weird, but that added more intrigue to the tale. I think Adam not going direct at Kane for kissing his girlfriend was sensible. After all, Kane didn't force the kiss on her.
Yes especially since he is so hot-blooded and possessive about Carly, it is a surprise to see the sensible side of him.
LOL. I thought I was the only one who saw that.
Re: Karly Vs Vadam
Posted: 20 Feb 2020, 11:55
by Howlan
OfficialEmma wrote: ↑19 Feb 2020, 17:10
Howlan wrote: ↑18 Feb 2020, 15:49
OfficialEmma wrote: ↑17 Feb 2020, 04:01
The relationships were kind of weird, but that added more intrigue to the tale. I think Adam not going direct at Kane for kissing his girlfriend was sensible. After all, Kane didn't force the kiss on her.
Yes especially since he is so hot-blooded and possessive about Carly, it is a surprise to see the sensible side of him.
LOL. I thought I was the only one who saw that.
Yes, it was really a shock to see such sensible behaviour from Adam. I think it is the second biggest shock I got in the book, the first being Adam incestuous feeling over his mother.
Re: Karly Vs Vadam
Posted: 26 Feb 2020, 09:58
by Alyssa
I was really surprised that Adam did such a mature thing. While reading it I kept thinking he was going to punch Kane at the last minute. I was curious why he sees his relationship with Val comparable to Kane and Carly’s tho because they’re really not the same with the romantic feelings. Maybe the rest of the series will spell it out.
Re: Karly Vs Vadam
Posted: 26 Feb 2020, 10:52
by Nym182
Alyssa wrote: ↑26 Feb 2020, 09:58
I was really surprised that Adam did such a mature thing. While reading it I kept thinking he was going to punch Kane at the last minute. I was curious why he sees his relationship with Val comparable to Kane and Carly’s tho because they’re really not the same with the romantic feelings. Maybe the rest of the series will spell it out.
I agree! Val doesn't pose the same "threat" that Kane does and that definitely can be a huge influence... And you are right, Adam doing such a mature thing was one of the more mature things he has done in the book.
Re: Karly Vs Vadam
Posted: 26 Feb 2020, 16:09
by Howlan
Alyssa wrote: ↑26 Feb 2020, 09:58
I was really surprised that Adam did such a mature thing. While reading it I kept thinking he was going to punch Kane at the last minute. I was curious why he sees his relationship with Val comparable to Kane and Carly’s tho because they’re really not the same with the romantic feelings. Maybe the rest of the series will spell it out.
Yes that the most mature thing Adam ever did in this book. His temper just vanished!