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Renfield/Chatton relationship
Posted: 07 Apr 2020, 14:15
by Renee Syll Springer
When you first get introduced to these two, Mason pairs them up to work on the new Project Kata. He feeds them both the story that Kata is a clone from another facility with memory implants. They are very different and dislike each other so you wonder what Mason was thinking. Then both decide through separate means that this was wrong and tried to atone for their mistake. Did anyone else find this interesting?
Re: Renfield/Chatton relationship
Posted: 08 Apr 2020, 18:41
by Brenda Creech
Yes, I wondered why Mason paired them up on the same project, and especially the one with Kata as the clone. I think Reinfield was basically a good person and I don't think he ever agreed with how things were done with clones. Chatton finally figured it out, but it took him a lot longer. But, yes, I found the two of them being paired on that assignment interesting, I just haven't figured out what his motive was for doing so!
Re: Renfield/Chatton relationship
Posted: 13 Apr 2020, 19:47
by Jocelyn Eastman
B Creech wrote: ↑08 Apr 2020, 18:41
Yes, I wondered why Mason paired them up on the same project, and especially the one with Kata as the clone. I think Reinfield was basically a good person and I don't think he ever agreed with how things were done with clones. Chatton finally figured it out, but it took him a lot longer. But, yes, I found the two of them being paired on that assignment interesting, I just haven't figured out what his motive was for doing so!
I think they were paired up for his own entertainment.
I thought it was interesting that both of them figured out that what they were doing was wrong, but was a little sad that they didn’t figure that out with Tau alone. This revelation saved one and got the other killed.
Re: Renfield/Chatton relationship
Posted: 14 Apr 2020, 04:50
by Brenda Creech
Jocelyn Eastman wrote: ↑13 Apr 2020, 19:47
B Creech wrote: ↑08 Apr 2020, 18:41
Yes, I wondered why Mason paired them up on the same project, and especially the one with Kata as the clone. I think Reinfield was basically a good person and I don't think he ever agreed with how things were done with clones. Chatton finally figured it out, but it took him a lot longer. But, yes, I found the two of them being paired on that assignment interesting, I just haven't figured out what his motive was for doing so!
I think they were paired up for his own entertainment.
I thought it was interesting that both of them figured out that what they were doing was wrong, but was a little sad that they didn’t figure that out with Tau alone. This revelation saved one and got the other killed.
You are probably right, he paired them for his own entertainment! Mason was sadistic for sure! I wonder how Chatton will fit in to the next book!
Re: Renfield/Chatton relationship
Posted: 14 Apr 2020, 17:01
by raindropreader
I think that they were paired up because it added a drama aspect to the story. One loves to cuss and one flinched if a cuss word was said. If it had been two employees who were very alike there wouldn’t have been any banter between them.
Re: Renfield/Chatton relationship
Posted: 17 Apr 2020, 14:04
by jdsatosk
raindropreader wrote: ↑14 Apr 2020, 17:01
I think that they were paired up because it added a drama aspect to the story. One loves to cuss and one flinched if a cuss word was said. If it had been two employees who were very alike there wouldn’t have been any banter between them.
Also, I think that the author wanted to show that even two very different personalities could come to the same conclusion - even from very different backgrounds and ethics perspectives- that something was very wrong with what was going on at that lab.
Re: Renfield/Chatton relationship
Posted: 17 Apr 2020, 22:13
by NatRose
raindropreader wrote: ↑14 Apr 2020, 17:01
I think that they were paired up because it added a drama aspect to the story. One loves to cuss and one flinched if a cuss word was said. If it had been two employees who were very alike there wouldn’t have been any banter between them.
jdsatosk wrote: ↑17 Apr 2020, 14:04
Also, I think that the author wanted to show that even two very different personalities could come to the same conclusion - even from very different backgrounds and ethics perspectives- that something was very wrong with what was going on at that lab.
Both of those are very good points. I think it definitely makes sense why the author would pair them up, but I'm still not sure what a good explanation might be in canon. Except that we don't actually know that much about Renfield and Chatton's abilities as scientists, so perhaps Mason paired them up because of their specialties or experience that would make them good handlers for Kata but simply weren't relevant to the story.
Re: Renfield/Chatton relationship
Posted: 09 May 2020, 12:39
by Jajachris
I think the Renfield/Chatton relationship was drafted by the author to further spice the drama in the story. They were both different and it was hard to see them working together but I think their pairing gave the story an interesting side with the different personalities and backgrounds
Re: Renfield/Chatton relationship
Posted: 11 May 2020, 19:42
by Erin Painter Baker
I thought it made perfect sense that these two men, who strongly disliked each other, would be made the two lead scientists on this project. If they were friends, or even friendly, they might sit down and talk, compare notes, and much more quickly would likely have come to the realization that Kata was not a project. By placing two people who were likely never to talk to each other outside times when they were forced to, it helped keep all information siloed and prevented people from putting two and two together.
Re: Renfield/Chatton relationship
Posted: 21 May 2020, 04:27
by rdrumsey
Jajachris wrote: ↑09 May 2020, 12:39
I think the Renfield/Chatton relationship was drafted by the author to further spice the drama in the story. They were both different and it was hard to see them working together but I think their pairing gave the story an interesting side with the different personalities and backgrounds
I agree. But, the antagonistic relationship brought failure to communicate as an actual functioning team. Because of there extreme differences, they only seemed to communicate when they had to. In a normal situation, I feel they would have realized Kata was human.
Re: Renfield/Chatton relationship
Posted: 24 May 2020, 22:54
by Jackie Holycross
jdsatosk wrote: ↑17 Apr 2020, 14:04
raindropreader wrote: ↑14 Apr 2020, 17:01
I think that they were paired up because it added a drama aspect to the story. One loves to cuss and one flinched if a cuss word was said. If it had been two employees who were very alike there wouldn’t have been any banter between them.
Also, I think that the author wanted to show that even two very different personalities could come to the same conclusion - even from very different backgrounds and ethics perspectives- that something was very wrong with what was going on at that lab.
That is really interesting. I had not thought about the two people who worked most closely with the projects decided that what was happening was wrong.
Re: Renfield/Chatton relationship
Posted: 25 May 2020, 07:44
by Faithful Oso
I think they were paired so as to spice up the drama and entertainment in the book.
Re: Renfield/Chatton relationship
Posted: 26 May 2020, 10:35
by Kemmy11
the pairing of both personalities together made the book more interesting and entertaining.
Re: Renfield/Chatton relationship
Posted: 26 May 2020, 17:03
by ZettieOby
I think that Mason in his sadistic nature, knowing they both do not really agree paired them up for his amusement and entertainment. It made the book more interesting though.
Re: Renfield/Chatton relationship
Posted: 28 Jul 2020, 05:03
by Lia A
It was probably because of Mason's cruel nature. They were opposites, and Mason probably knew. The pairing made the book interesting too.