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What do you think about Destinism? Do you think it's the author's way of telling us some of his ideologies or something; Like in this quote from the book by the Eiodi :
"Let no man ever tell you that you must have only science. Or only magic. Or only faith. For that man might be the devil himself "

Or do you think it has a greater scope? Do you think we may get Destinians in the future?

Personally, I find it as something to get philosophies and the like from. I quite like the ideas put forward by this fictional religion.

Fasmin wrote: ↑23 Oct 2020, 12:23 What do you think about Destinism? Do you think it's the author's way of telling us some of his ideologies or something; Like in this quote from the book by the Eiodi :
"Let no man ever tell you that you must have only science. Or only magic. Or only faith. For that man might be the devil himself "

Or do you think it has a greater scope? Do you think we may get Destinians in the future?

Personally, I find it as something to get philosophies and the like from. I quite like the ideas put forward by this fictional religion.

Sorry guys. I just realised that we can't get destinians. Because this book unlike the HP or PJ series doesn't pretend to exist. It's pretty clear that voulhire doesn't exist, making it clear that magic, caromentis, and everything else in this book (except for the messages and lessons it conveys) is a doesn't figment of the author's imagination.

Quite right! but it is fun to think about isn't it?

Besides, even though it is clearly fictional, the author still tells us some of his ideologies in a way, or at least his thoughts. I don't think it is possible to write and not put a bit if yourself in the book.

But, what do I know? Lol.

Hmmm. Good question. I think authors, or any creative is not obligated to explain his or her work and as such impose it on the reader or receiver. But concepts like this is for exactly this type of debate. So when we read, we relate to different concepts as a result of how our lives has unfolded. So if destinism resonates with you, that's a part of your individuality. and if it doesn't then that's also a part of your individuality. But I do agree with that quote though.

What I understand about Destinism is a belief that God already determined each person’s destiny. But in the process to the destiny, human have liberty. They could do what they want, they could try what they want to be, but in the end, they are still a part of God’s plan. They will be what God had planned to them. Honestly, I agree that God has plan for human, but based on my belief, God will change your condition (to a better one) if you put some efforts.

Quite thought-provoking indeed. In terms of destinism, I do believe in it. There's almost a way that you can tell a person's end by the way they are living. This such ideas as 'destined for greatness' come into play. We do have a say, or rather, a way to influence our destinies. Again, since this book is clearly fictional, I think the author was simply trying to lay down the way he sees the world from his own lenses. And it's true, it's the way we provoke philosophy, by laying our ideas for such debates as these.

I strongly feel that the author somehow projects his ideologies through his books. There's a strong feeling I get behind the books. However, this is fictional, but I believe in destinism. I've see it manifest.

I think I like the idea of following your destiny and believing whole-heartedly you following your destiny. I don't think this will ever be a religion in our world because we are too hands-on in making our futures a certain way without even considering what our destiny was supposed to be in the first place.

Ndiviwe wrote: ↑28 Dec 2020, 01:13 I think I like the idea of following your destiny and believing whole-heartedly you following your destiny. I don't think this will ever be a religion in our world because we are too hands-on in making our futures a certain way without even considering what our destiny was supposed to be in the first place.

I don't think "destiny" as in your fate is preplanned is real though. Finding your talents and following them is real and necessary for a happy life. But " our fates have already been decided", I don't think so.

I actually think we do decide our destiny ourselves. We are the ones that land ourselves in hardship or prosperity whether knowingly or not.

But I guess this is a debatable topic.

I think Destinism is depicted in the book through Meldorath. In my opinion, Meldorath has a plan for everyone. He already knew what would happen to Eiodi before it did and Lord Eldus in the first book.

Fasmin wrote: ↑23 Oct 2020, 12:23 What do you think about Destinism? Do you think it's the author's way of telling us some of his ideologies or something; Like in this quote from the book by the Eiodi :
"Let no man ever tell you that you must have only science. Or only magic. Or only faith. For that man might be the devil himself "

Or do you think it has a greater scope? Do you think we may get Destinians in the future?

Personally, I find it as something to get philosophies and the like from. I quite like the ideas put forward by this fictional religion.

Destinism is apparently an incorporation of varying beliefs, and this religion remains malleable. Although Destinism wasn't established in our world, many people today have similar belief with Destinism's religion.

That was very thought-provoking. In aspects of destiny, I am a believer. There's almost a manner to predict a person's end by the lifestyle they lead. This is where concepts like greatness essence are relevant.  I believe that the writer was simply attempting to lay out how he sees the world through his own eyes. And it's true, this is how we evoke ideology, by laying out our ideas for discussions such as these.