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Sam Lauren wrote: ↑02 Mar 2021, 06:34 History absolutely repeats itself. We can see patterns in the growth of civilizations, especially ones with similar governments. If you look at the history of Ancient Rome, there are a lot of parallels to the United States. They also had a Republic. Elections grew increasingly expensive; politics became a path of wealth; as their economy depended more and more on other countries, the companies involved were able to sway policy makers for laws in their favor; there was a growing division between the rich and commoners, and right before the collapse of their republic they did away with the middle class. Their laws led them to having no middle class. Many economists says our middle class is dwindling too!

Sushan wrote: ↑02 Mar 2021, 08:40

Sam Lauren wrote: ↑02 Mar 2021, 06:34 History absolutely repeats itself. We can see patterns in the growth of civilizations, especially ones with similar governments. If you look at the history of Ancient Rome, there are a lot of parallels to the United States. They also had a Republic. Elections grew increasingly expensive; politics became a path of wealth; as their economy depended more and more on other countries, the companies involved were able to sway policy makers for laws in their favor; there was a growing division between the rich and commoners, and right before the collapse of their republic they did away with the middle class. Their laws led them to having no middle class. Many economists says our middle class is dwindling too!

That is quite a nice explanation and that shows how history can be repeated at a practical level. So for the political and social issues, we can learn things from the history and with the way of the things are going, we can predict certain things with the lessons that we learn from the history.

But is it possible to occur an exact pattern as this author suggests, not only once or twice, but four times? Has this pattern really happened or has this author put some events into a pattern and claimed of a similarity?

Sushan wrote: ↑02 Mar 2021, 00:49 By studying various religious scriptures, the author has identified a general pattern according to which the events occur when God's Divine Plan (To make the physical world a dwelling place for God) is going to be fulfilled. As per the author, various leaders have emerged since Moses, such as David, Ezra and Esther, Simon Bar Kokhba, who would have fulfilled this task, but failed due to the opposition by the serpent (as per the author, the very serpent who made Eve to eat from the forbidden tree has continued his mission in preventing God's plans from happening).

So, according to the author, this general pattern happens as,

1. Bad events happen
2. Leaders emerge to command
3. Amalek war ( Amalek can be any nation at the time who opposes God's Divine Plan)
4. Building a temple (or the revelation)
5. Death of the leader


The author shows that this cycle has repeated several times, and he suggests that it will help us to predict the future events.

When studying the bible and other relevant religious scriptures, have you noticed such a pattern? Or is this merely a making of the author by arranging few historical facts into a pattern? Is this a proof for the saying, "history repeats itself"?

Sushan wrote: ↑02 Mar 2021, 00:49 By studying various religious scriptures, the author has identified a general pattern according to which the events occur when God's Divine Plan (To make the physical world a dwelling place for God) is going to be fulfilled. As per the author, various leaders have emerged since Moses, such as David, Ezra and Esther, Simon Bar Kokhba, who would have fulfilled this task, but failed due to the opposition by the serpent (as per the author, the very serpent who made Eve to eat from the forbidden tree has continued his mission in preventing God's plans from happening).

So, according to the author, this general pattern happens as,

1. Bad events happen
2. Leaders emerge to command
3. Amalek war ( Amalek can be any nation at the time who opposes God's Divine Plan)
4. Building a temple (or the revelation)
5. Death of the leader


The author shows that this cycle has repeated several times, and he suggests that it will help us to predict the future events.

When studying the bible and other relevant religious scriptures, have you noticed such a pattern? Or is this merely a making of the author by arranging few historical facts into a pattern? Is this a proof for the saying, "history repeats itself"?

Bertha Jackson wrote: ↑03 Mar 2021, 17:20 History continually repeats itself. Look at the division in our country today. This division has many of the same aspects as the Civil War. Conditions in the Middle East today are similar to the times during the Bible.

Jennifer Aldo wrote: ↑04 Mar 2021, 00:12

Sushan wrote: ↑02 Mar 2021, 08:40

Sam Lauren wrote: ↑02 Mar 2021, 06:34 History absolutely repeats itself. We can see patterns in the growth of civilizations, especially ones with similar governments. If you look at the history of Ancient Rome, there are a lot of parallels to the United States. They also had a Republic. Elections grew increasingly expensive; politics became a path of wealth; as their economy depended more and more on other countries, the companies involved were able to sway policy makers for laws in their favor; there was a growing division between the rich and commoners, and right before the collapse of their republic they did away with the middle class. Their laws led them to having no middle class. Many economists says our middle class is dwindling too!

That is quite a nice explanation and that shows how history can be repeated at a practical level. So for the political and social issues, we can learn things from the history and with the way of the things are going, we can predict certain things with the lessons that we learn from the history.

But is it possible to occur an exact pattern as this author suggests, not only once or twice, but four times? Has this pattern really happened or has this author put some events into a pattern and claimed of a similarity?

I think it is possible. History repeats itself, evidenced by the world around us. I believe that if it happens once, the tendency of happening again becomes higher. And this increases as the event occurs more.

dianaterrado wrote: ↑04 Mar 2021, 00:48

Sushan wrote: ↑02 Mar 2021, 00:49 By studying various religious scriptures, the author has identified a general pattern according to which the events occur when God's Divine Plan (To make the physical world a dwelling place for God) is going to be fulfilled. As per the author, various leaders have emerged since Moses, such as David, Ezra and Esther, Simon Bar Kokhba, who would have fulfilled this task, but failed due to the opposition by the serpent (as per the author, the very serpent who made Eve to eat from the forbidden tree has continued his mission in preventing God's plans from happening).

So, according to the author, this general pattern happens as,

1. Bad events happen
2. Leaders emerge to command
3. Amalek war ( Amalek can be any nation at the time who opposes God's Divine Plan)
4. Building a temple (or the revelation)
5. Death of the leader


The author shows that this cycle has repeated several times, and he suggests that it will help us to predict the future events.

When studying the bible and other relevant religious scriptures, have you noticed such a pattern? Or is this merely a making of the author by arranging few historical facts into a pattern? Is this a proof for the saying, "history repeats itself"?

I actually never saw it this way but the author did present the idea/s in such a way that I kinda want to explore it. It's definitely something to think about. And I like that the author raised some though provoking ideas.

Hhannahh wrote: ↑04 Mar 2021, 01:40 Sure history does repeat itself, especially in political and social affairs. But with regards to spiritual affairs, such as God's divine plan, I am not certain.

Unique Ego wrote: ↑04 Mar 2021, 01:52

Sushan wrote: ↑02 Mar 2021, 00:49 By studying various religious scriptures, the author has identified a general pattern according to which the events occur when God's Divine Plan (To make the physical world a dwelling place for God) is going to be fulfilled. As per the author, various leaders have emerged since Moses, such as David, Ezra and Esther, Simon Bar Kokhba, who would have fulfilled this task, but failed due to the opposition by the serpent (as per the author, the very serpent who made Eve to eat from the forbidden tree has continued his mission in preventing God's plans from happening).

So, according to the author, this general pattern happens as,

1. Bad events happen
2. Leaders emerge to command
3. Amalek war ( Amalek can be any nation at the time who opposes God's Divine Plan)
4. Building a temple (or the revelation)
5. Death of the leader


The author shows that this cycle has repeated several times, and he suggests that it will help us to predict the future events.

When studying the bible and other relevant religious scriptures, have you noticed such a pattern? Or is this merely a making of the author by arranging few historical facts into a pattern? Is this a proof for the saying, "history repeats itself"?

I believe that history does indeed repeat itself; you only need to look back a a few hundred years to see it. Nations and civilizations come and go. But the idea that this is somehow the devil winning at stopping God's plan to inhabit the earth is simply hogwash to me. First off, the way the scriptures define heaven, why would God want to leave that for our "clump of dirt?" If anything, God's ultimate plan is to come and take those who believe in Him so that they can be with Him in heaven—and that's something a million "serpents" can't stop. The scripture says that this world will pass away...so I believe it will.