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What do you think about Mark's latest project?
Posted: 14 Feb 2023, 17:16
by Olga Markova
In the Epilogue of Relentless, we find out about the latest project Mark started in January 2022 - the Mark Victor Hansen's library. Having read about it and explored its website, I have mixed feelings. On the upside, it looks like a great idea in that it capitalises on Mark's uphill struggle to publish his first book and spares new authors the like struggle by offering the full set of services to publish and market their books. I also think that collaboration with OBC may be worth exploring, as new authors may be emerging from among the OBC audience and bringing more books to OBC. On the flip side though, I am unconvinced about the ghostwriting service for to-be authors - would it not be depriving of authenticity and suppressing emerging talent?
Re: What do you think about Mark's latest project?
Posted: 15 Feb 2023, 11:45
by Patty Allread
This type of all-in-one service to get books published is gaining popularity. I looked into ghostwriting somewhat, and there is a big range of prices for it and, I'm sure, an equally big range of quality. My concern was whether the books would be properly edited and proofread and how much input the "author" has once the book is written. I have suspected some OBC non-fiction books were ghostwritten mainly by the Fiverr-type cover design and the poor editing, but of course, I can't be sure.
I also found that having a book ghostwritten is part of an entrepreneurial process to get books on the market and earn royalties. Some of these businesses also include having books recorded for apps like Audible. This type of setup that uses ghostwriters is workable for someone who has ideas but doesn't have the time or desire to write a book themselves. It all would depend heavily on the honesty and quality of the company and its writers. Having read Relentless, I would tend to put M.V. Hansen in the honest category.
As for me, I'd rather do the writing and wouldn't ever consider a ghostwriter. I, too wonder how other would-be writers feel about this.
Re: What do you think about Mark's latest project?
Posted: 15 Feb 2023, 18:03
by Jack King
Patty Allread wrote: ↑15 Feb 2023, 11:45
This type of all-in-one service to get books published is gaining popularity. I looked into ghostwriting somewhat, and there is a big range of prices for it and, I'm sure, an equally big range of quality. My concern was whether the books would be properly edited and proofread and how much input the "author" has once the book is written. I have suspected some OBC non-fiction books were ghostwritten mainly by the Fiverr-type cover design and the poor editing, but of course, I can't be sure.
I also found that having a book ghostwritten is part of an entrepreneurial process to get books on the market and earn royalties. Some of these businesses also include having books recorded for apps like Audible. This type of setup that uses ghostwriters is workable for someone who has ideas but doesn't have the time or desire to write a book themselves. It all would depend heavily on the honesty and quality of the company and its writers. Having read
Relentless, I would tend to put M.V. Hansen in the honest category.
As for me, I'd rather do the writing and wouldn't ever consider a ghostwriter. I, too wonder how other would-be writers feel about this.
The availability to self publishing is becoming easier and easier with advances in technology. I’m sure we as readers (and authors that post here too) will benefit at least in small part from this. A brilliant story that may be deemed to risky, or confusing by main stream publishers could take off using a platform like this.
Re: What do you think about Mark's latest project?
Posted: 16 Feb 2023, 12:34
by Patty Allread
The availability to self publishing is becoming easier and easier with advances in technology. I’m sure we as readers (and authors that post here too) will benefit at least in small part from this. A brilliant story that may be deemed too risky, or confusing by main stream publishers could take off using a platform like this.
I agree with you, Jack. The ease of self-publishing is a boon to new authors who aren't picked up by the big publishers yet. It's also a boon to people like me, who enjoy reading and reviewing new authors and wouldn't otherwise have exposure to them. But the quality of ghostwriting is still a question I have if one were to hire a ghostwriter.
Re: What do you think about Mark's latest project?
Posted: 17 Feb 2023, 11:40
by Christine Palmer
I was also intrigued by the Mark Victor Hansen library initiative and checked it out. I see ghostwriting as increasing the number of fantastic ideas that can come to fruition rather than supressing emerging talent. Not every person with valuable life experience or wisdom to share is a good writer. That does not mean that their book ideas or thoughts shouldn’t be shared with the world. Those who are gifted authors and want to pursue writing using their own unique voice are not limited by this service being available.
You do, however, raise a good point on authenticity. I would be very curious to know how many of the books I read actually used a ghostwriter.
Re: What do you think about Mark's latest project?
Posted: 17 Feb 2023, 15:41
by Phoebe Felix
I don't think this project will suppress emerging talents. Most of us became better writers from ghostwriting. However, I believe there's more to this project than one can know except one becomes a part of it. Nonetheless, I think it's a noble idea.
Re: What do you think about Mark's latest project?
Posted: 18 Feb 2023, 19:36
by Alice Fu
I think the idea of ghostwriting can either be really good or really bad. On one hand, people who deserve credit to their works can't get noticed. On the other hand, it provides writers who don't want their names out there to get a chance to anonymously show their work to the world without fear of drawing attention.
Re: What do you think about Mark's latest project?
Posted: 22 Feb 2023, 13:25
by Meghan Sica
I think its a great idea and investment. It will allow others a better opportunity to have their books published and encourage new authors to write.
Re: What do you think about Mark's latest project?
Posted: 02 Mar 2023, 03:15
by Jane Ogwang
I actually thought the idea was a good way to give back. I didn't think much of it nor look into it that much, but I see very valid concerns from you and other reviewers. I'd love to see how a collaboration with OBC would turn out.
Re: What do you think about Mark's latest project?
Posted: 02 Mar 2023, 03:16
by Jane Ogwang
I actually thought the idea was a good way to give back. I didn't think much of it nor look into it that much, but I see very valid concerns from you and other members. I'd love to see how a collaboration with OBC would turn out.
Re: What do you think about Mark's latest project?
Posted: 03 Mar 2023, 02:20
by Ebele Ekelobi
The greatest benefit is to new authors who intend to publish their first book. They'll learn about the author's struggles with publishing his first book and know upfront what to avoid to make the journey easier for them.
Re: What do you think about Mark's latest project?
Posted: 09 Mar 2023, 09:58
by Abdul-Malik Hassan
Aside from reviewing, Ghostwriting is something I want to specialize in. Though my opinion may differ, the ghostwriting service for to-be authors is something to take into consideration. Mark's success story is enormous. As a result, it may vary from each individual to choose what option fits them best concerning the opportunities given. Overall, I credit the whole project because of its ability to empower a multitude of writers embarking on their writing journey.
Re: What do you think about Mark's latest project?
Posted: 20 Mar 2023, 21:26
by Nqobile Mashinini Tshabalala
Having read this book, I understand where Mark comes from and what inspired his library. I admire him even more for his one-stop-shop approach and would like to believe he knows what makes a great book and factored all of that into his services. Ghostwriting has benefits and disadvantages. Personally, I prefer books written by the authors themselves because their personalities shine through. It's a way to connect with your audience.
Re: What do you think about Mark's latest project?
Posted: 22 Mar 2023, 16:50
by Joyjim
I do not think ghost writing will affect authenticity. While everyone is capable of creating ideas, not everyone is adept at writing. I believe this part can be outsourced to professional writers.
Re: What do you think about Mark's latest project?
Posted: 30 Mar 2023, 04:47
by Yasmine Zaki Muhieddine
I have mixed feeling about ghostwriting. On one hand, it allows people who have great ideas but lack the talent to write the opportunity to have their books out there. On the other hand, there is a loss of authenticity. Some things will be lost in the words like when things get lost in translation. Unless the ghostwriter's ideas are perfectly in-sync with the person's ideas whose book is being written. I also feel sad about the ghostwriter who doesn't really get recognized for his talent, his name will not appear. It takes a lot of talent for one to compile words to a captivating book.
The best way to help would be to give lessons on how to write a book to those who wish to do so.