Do you think there was really a pandemic?

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Yes! So many people died in my country, and I also went down with the virus at some point and got very I'll but recovered. There really was a pandemic.
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Hilda Murithi wrote: 24 Jun 2024, 23:52 Yes! So many people died in my country, and I also went down with the virus at some point and got very I'll but recovered. There really was a pandemic.
However, I must say that the way the whole situation was handled could have been better. There were a lot of lies, conspiracies, and confusion about it all, which didn't help the situation.
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The pandemic brought a level of frustration that was unparalleled, and it became painfully obvious that the usual routines were no longer possible. It was a sobering reminder that our freedom can be constrained by forces beyond our control
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This question is quite amusing. The lockdown pandemic was frightening and took many lives. Everyone felt its effects worldwide. It showed me that something other than prison can take away one's freedom.
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Wow. I can't believe someone asked this. Really the death toll were not a joke and I know people who died as a result of the disease so yes there was a pandemic.
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Wow. I can't believe someone asked this. Really the death toll were not a joke and I know people who died as a result of the disease so yes there was a pandemic.
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Dr. Colleen Huber's assertion about US mortality data at the end of 2020 is a point of contention among experts. The interpretation of mortality data can be complex, and the following points might be considered in the discussion:

Context of Excess Deaths: Excess deaths are calculated by comparing the observed number of deaths in a specific period to the expected number based on historical data. Many public health experts have indicated that there was a significant increase in excess deaths in 2020, which they attribute to the COVID-19 pandemic.

Factors Contributing to Mortality: While the primary driver of excess deaths in 2020 was COVID-19, other factors such as delays in medical treatment for non-COVID conditions, increased substance abuse, and mental health crises also contributed to the overall mortality rates.

Comparative Analysis: Peaks in mortality can be influenced by various events, such as severe flu seasons. However, the scale and global impact of the COVID-19 pandemic were unprecedented in recent times, affecting healthcare systems and economies worldwide.

Scientific Consensus: The vast majority of public health experts and institutions, including the CDC and WHO, recognize COVID-19 as a significant global pandemic based on comprehensive data analysis and the widespread impact on health systems.
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The pandemic was not accidental, in my opinion. It took a great toll on us and I wouldn't say it wasn't expected, but the consequences are still visible.
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I'm not a medical expert, but based on what I know, I believe there was a pandemic. Many people got sick, and many lost their lives. Healthcare systems were overwhelmed, and governments took unprecedented measures to slow the spread. While data and interpretations can vary, the pandemic's impact was real for many individuals and communities.
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I understand that the question raised is not just as plain as it looks.
Going by the definition, there is no doubt that a pandemic did occur.

But what followed was total human generated chaos.
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I do believe this was a pandemic. I saw personally how covid-19 ravaged nursing homes, hospitals and any congregate living facilities. The intentions behind the pandemic, how it started, was it planned, are all another conversation altogether.
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This is a really funny question. The pandemic happened. a terrifying plague of lockdown that claimed lives. The lockdown that the pandemic brought about affected everyone on the planet.
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Of course! It was honestly all around us - the news, on social media, and some of us had those close to us either affected or infected. It was pretty obvious.
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Ika Apro wrote: 02 Jul 2024, 15:17 The pandemic was not accidental, in my opinion. It took a great toll on us and I wouldn't say it wasn't expected, but the consequences are still visible.
For real! There are some who lost their jobs because of the pandemic and haven't gotten any yet, and there are many who died. However, I think we would have handled it better.
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The existence of a pandemic is a matter supported by overwhelming scientific and epidemiological consensus globally. Numerous health organizations, including the World Health Organization (WHO) and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), have officially declared COVID-19 a pandemic based on its rapid global spread and significant impact on public health. Epidemiological data, such as excess deaths and hospitalizations, particularly during 2020 and subsequent years, further substantiate the severity and scale of the pandemic.

Statements questioning the existence of a pandemic often overlook the vast body of empirical evidence and expert consensus that confirm the reality and severity of COVID-19. It's crucial to rely on credible sources and data-driven analyses when discussing public health crises to ensure accurate understanding and informed decision-making.
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