Babies who die when they are born, can they go to heaven?

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Babies who die when they are born, can they go to heaven?

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I understand from this book, that free will and faith are important for the expression of love, and that to go to heaven one must repent for using their free will to sin and must have faith in God. A newborn born baby that dies at birth does not have the opportunity to use free will nor to have faith. How do they get to heaven?
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I believe that there comes an age of understanding. When a child knows that they are doing wrong and they are not held accountable by God for what they do up until then they will go to heaven.
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Yes - Jesus died for the original sin so that when people are born, they are born without having sinned. At worst, they'd go through purgatory first, but as there is no sin to cleanse it'd be a quick process. Let's say one MUST acknowledge God to go to heaven - then yes, babies (and those who have never learned of the Judeo-Christian God) will never go to heaven. However, they have not sinned and cannot go to hell from their own ignorance, and are therefore sent to purgatory. Purgatory is NOT a destination, and thus their soul will eventually move from purgatory (perhaps after learning of God?) to heaven.
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The book’s solution to this issue is provided in the last chapter of Part II. Because the solution centers on the nature of eternal being, a person really needs to read the preceding chapters in order to understand it.
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God is merciful and gracious and that is why we have Jesus' offering Himself as a sacrifice on the cross for all our sins including the newborn's original sin. Furthermore, God's judgement is tempered by mercy and way above what we understand being that He is eternal. I think the question of the child who dies innocently at birth can be perceived within this frame of thinking.
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I believe that our loving Father has a different approach when it comes to babies. Our actions against love or God’s laid principles are the ones that cause punishment. According to many arguments in the book, the author did prove clearly that sin is the real cause of the phenomena of life, henceforth the remedy is repentance. We inherit sin from birth because of the fall of Adam and Eve, or the fall of man, which is not our own doing but because of the sinful nature that we are born into. Therefore in my assumption babies who die at birth return to heaven or to God without fault.
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"Heaven" is a term defined by men. Babies who die at birth may be due to the soul not being compatible with its own recipient, since bodies are only recipients of souls, which in a set, plus consciousness, would be us human beings. The souls of these babies or fetuses, as the case may be, transcend to wherever their level of evolution corresponds. In any case, it is possible that this experience of the parents may be some kind of learning or Karma that they had to go through.
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I believe that they do. I mean they have done nothing wrong.
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I personally haven’t thought about the life after death neither have I ever thought of the heaven and hell. So, I don’t know what to say to this.
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The book emphasizes the importance of free will and faith in expressing love and achieving heaven. It suggests that a newborn baby who dies at birth cannot use free will or have faith, and they will eventually move from purgatory to heaven. The author believes that there comes an age of understanding when a child knows they are wrong and is not held accountable by God. They also mention that Jesus died for the original sin, so people are born without sin. They believe that babies and those who have never learned of God will eventually move from purgatory to heaven.
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If there is a heaven, then definitely babies are going to heaven. In fact, all teenagers, even if they are mean, would die and go to heaven. They are too young to understand that their actions are wrong. Most adults do not understand it until wrong happens to them or their loved ones.
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I have always thought babies would go to heaven since they haven't had a chance to sin, but what about the ones that are possessed?
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I absolutely believe that they do go to Heaven. While they cannot have faith or "repent," I believe they are innocent and have nothing to repent for. Additionally, they are not sentient, and therefor have no concept of right or wrong.
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Post by Lene Lena »

Personally, I don't believe there is a hell or a heaven. If hell does exist , we are already living in it. I think that when a person dies, whether a baby or not, they cease to exist.
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I have no answer to this question. This is a huge statement. Some say yes, and some say no. I will say it is only an assumption or imagination of ours. There is no actual fact. It is beyond our science. I believe in science.
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