What made you sad or mad today?

Fran · Post by **Fran** » 25 Jul 2012, 12:24

laci_baby wrote:My lower back made me sad today. It hurts soooo bad i cant sit, or stand, or lay down, or walk. Feels like someone shoved a fork in my spine. Ugh. Barely slept at all last night because it hurt so bad. I have Excedrin Back and Body, but i'm waiting for the doctor to call me back to tell me if i can have it or not while i'm pregnant.

Sad to hear that laci .. hope you feel better soon. Keep smiling through!

Geneen Karstens · Post by **Geneen Karstens** » 25 Jul 2012, 12:28

laci_baby wrote:My lower back made me sad today. It hurts soooo bad i cant sit, or stand, or lay down, or walk. Feels like someone shoved a fork in my spine. Ugh. Barely slept at all last night because it hurt so bad. I have Excedrin Back and Body, but i'm waiting for the doctor to call me back to tell me if i can have it or not while i'm pregnant.

I feel for you...I have some major back problems also. I wouldn't think you could take excedrin when you're pregnant. Hope you get relief soon.

pi_r_round · Post by **pi_r_round** » 25 Jul 2012, 13:46

Friends in the choir: The country that our Forefathers created, and subsequent generations validated with their
sacrifices, no longer exists. I'm not talking about changes in the landscape; I'm talking about subverting the spirit
that drove "that noble experiment." The reminders by our leaders of what was expected of us(and of them as well)
as Americans, was usurped by the meaningless, self serving drivel of men like Vince Lombardi who told anyone who
would listen that "winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." Your life meant nothing unless you won. Won what?
The recent events at Penn State have underscored the vacuity of Lombardi's position. A man with a fanatical belief
in that position enabled a pedophile to sexually abuse children by looking the other way. He did more than ignore
it, he led the effort to cover it up. Joe Paterno gave up his soul to keep his reputation intact. And now he doesn't
have anything. Like other members of the choir, I was raised by strong parents who imparted their values to me.
The choir doesn't subscribe to greed, dishonesty, or anything else that is nurtured by the Lombardi Doctrine. It
only hurts America. Give it up.

Ant · Post by **Ant** » 25 Jul 2012, 14:03

Never heard of Vince Lombardi, sounds like he has double standards. I can see that you feel passionately about this so excuse my ignorance, I will try to find out a bit more info on it.

Geneen Karstens · Post by **Geneen Karstens** » 25 Jul 2012, 14:26

pi_r_round wrote:Friends in the choir: The country that our Forefathers created, and subsequent generations validated with their
sacrifices, no longer exists. I'm not talking about changes in the landscape; I'm talking about subverting the spirit
that drove "that noble experiment." The reminders by our leaders of what was expected of us(and of them as well)
as Americans, was usurped by the meaningless, self serving drivel of men like Vince Lombardi who told anyone who
would listen that "winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." Your life meant nothing unless you won. Won what?
The recent events at Penn State have underscored the vacuity of Lombardi's position. A man with a fanatical belief
in that position enabled a pedophile to sexually abuse children by looking the other way. He did more than ignore
it, he led the effort to cover it up. Joe Paterno gave up his soul to keep his reputation intact. And now he doesn't
have anything. Like other members of the choir, I was raised by strong parents who imparted their values to me.
The choir doesn't subscribe to greed, dishonesty, or anything else that is nurtured by the Lombardi Doctrine. It
only hurts America. Give it up.

Well said...a charter member of the choir.

laci_baby · Post by **laci_baby** » 25 Jul 2012, 22:29

Thanks Fran and Geneen.
I was allowed to have a third of an excedrin today. Didnt have much hope for that little bit of an Excedrin, but surprisingly it did help a little. The pressure moved to my shoulders and head, but atleast i can sit, move, and sleep without the lower back pain. Thats something i suppose.

awelker · Post by **awelker** » 25 Jul 2012, 22:29

i found out that if my current supervisor leaves, i'm not going to be even considered as a replacement. they are going to move a supervisor from another department that "wants a change".

laci_baby · Post by **laci_baby** » 25 Jul 2012, 22:31

Wow. That really sucks Alli. I'm sorry. I hate when companies do that. Maybe bring it to someones attenion that you would like a change as well?

awelker · Post by **awelker** » 25 Jul 2012, 22:32

i plan on it. i'm ready for a challenge. i have no challenge right now.

laci_baby · Post by **laci_baby** » 25 Jul 2012, 22:35

Good for you! And good luck!

StephenKingman · Post by **StephenKingman** » 26 Jul 2012, 12:13

awelker wrote:i found out that if my current supervisor leaves, i'm not going to be even considered as a replacement. they are going to move a supervisor from another department that "wants a change".

Thats hard to swallow, sadly just a fact of working life, the longer I work the more I see its all about personalities not skills. If the manager dont take to you or doesnt approve of you, you will never move up, no matter how good your skills are. People look after their own kind or else say one thing and then stab you in the back, best to just be professional and move about until you find your groove. Good luck

Bighuey · Post by **Bighuey** » 26 Jul 2012, 19:09

Thats a sad but true fact of life. But in most cases if you just hang in there, do your job well and honestly you will probably get ahead. Even a little butt-kissing helps, too. Nothing extreme, just enough to let them know you are there.

awelker · Post by **awelker** » 26 Jul 2012, 21:20

Thanks for the kind words everyone!

pi_r_round · Post by **pi_r_round** » 27 Jul 2012, 06:05

Ant wrote:Never heard of Vince Lombardi, sounds like he has double standards. I can see that you feel passionately about this so excuse my ignorance, I will try to find out a bit more info on it.

Lombardi was an NFL Football coach who coached the winning team in the first Super Bowl(1966). He was very driven
and expected the same from anyone who played for him. A reporter once asked him why he thought he was so successful.
His reply was that he believed "Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." A lot of powerful people(CEO's of American
Corporations, American politicians, John D. Rockefeller, Richard Nixon) had embraced this philosophy long before
Lombardi's public pronouncement. But what Lombardi used as motivational tool, men like Nixon used as a rationale
for a lifetime of unethical and ultimately criminal behavior. What Lombardi meant was "Work hard, never give up,
and you'll be successful." Nixon, Standard Oil, Enron, and Licor have a very different interpretation. And that's the
interpretation that has prevailed. One of the Presidential candidates was the CEO of a corporation that was hired
by foundering American businesses to turn them around. His "paradigm" included selling off assets, reducing payrolls
(eliminating jobs and the people who held them), seizing and diverting the employees retirement fund to his corporate
accountsTo ensure payment of his management fees, then running the resultant mess into bankruptcy court, where the
terms of bankruptcy insured that none of the former employees could sue for their expropriated retirement funds.
It's obscene. He stands in front of American citizens and asks for their support. He's ruined the lives of hundreds of
thousands of Americans. He belongs in jail, not in the House. But that won't happen. Everything he did is perfectly
legal. I don't think this what Vince or the Founding Fathers had in mind.