The Purpose for Pets

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Kro92813 wrote: 23 Sep 2019, 04:17 When i first read this question I perceived it as what purpose did the pets have in driving the story forward? As in how did they contribute to the story and progress the plot?

To this I answer they didnt.

Yes they may have been companions for the kids in the orphanage. We can speculate that they kept the kids from running away and trying to get back home. We can guess all we want, but as far as progressing the plot the pets did nothing.

There were opportunities for wolfea to rescue will and Peter or get them out of a bind - but she never did.

The only helpful pet was Valerie's albatross which became an extension of her character, but besides flying around to get valerie from here to there, the albatross didnt significantly help in any way either. In fact, valerian killed it. Again, a missed opportunity because a giant bird like that could have swooped down and saved the day.

Poudini was an adorable comic relief at times, but that was all he amounted to.

The pets in the story were there to fill some space, but they didnt (in my opinion) add any amount of significant depth to the story. If Pellucid hadnt written them in the story would be a little shorter, but nothing important would be lost.
I cannot argue with your assessment but I think they were used to enrich the emotional aspect of the protagonist and his friends.
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Ferdinand_otieno wrote: 23 Sep 2019, 04:22
Kro92813 wrote: 23 Sep 2019, 04:08
Ferdinand_otieno wrote: 22 Sep 2019, 13:30

I deduced this from Will's strong reaction to Wolfèa and his insistence on her being his pet.
Will had a calm and rational mind. He faced his tasks head on without fear and remained calm in the fCw of danger.

Wolfea was wild and spontaneous ready to bite the next person who came near her. She was scared

I think opposites attracted on that one
Or maybe will longed to be like Wolfèa.
I dont think so. He seemed mature for his age and ready to conquer the world. He was wise beyond his years and felt like an old soul.
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Ferdinand_otieno wrote: 23 Sep 2019, 04:26
Kro92813 wrote: 23 Sep 2019, 04:17 When i first read this question I perceived it as what purpose did the pets have in driving the story forward? As in how did they contribute to the story and progress the plot?

To this I answer they didnt.

Yes they may have been companions for the kids in the orphanage. We can speculate that they kept the kids from running away and trying to get back home. We can guess all we want, but as far as progressing the plot the pets did nothing.

There were opportunities for wolfea to rescue will and Peter or get them out of a bind - but she never did.

The only helpful pet was Valerie's albatross which became an extension of her character, but besides flying around to get valerie from here to there, the albatross didnt significantly help in any way either. In fact, valerian killed it. Again, a missed opportunity because a giant bird like that could have swooped down and saved the day.

Poudini was an adorable comic relief at times, but that was all he amounted to.

The pets in the story were there to fill some space, but they didnt (in my opinion) add any amount of significant depth to the story. If Pellucid hadnt written them in the story would be a little shorter, but nothing important would be lost.
I cannot argue with your assessment but I think they were used to enrich the emotional aspect of the protagonist and his friends.
As you have said in every. Single. Other response.
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Kro92813 wrote: 23 Sep 2019, 04:37
Ferdinand_otieno wrote: 23 Sep 2019, 04:22
Kro92813 wrote: 23 Sep 2019, 04:08

Will had a calm and rational mind. He faced his tasks head on without fear and remained calm in the fCw of danger.

Wolfea was wild and spontaneous ready to bite the next person who came near her. She was scared

I think opposites attracted on that one
Or maybe will longed to be like Wolfèa.
I dont think so. He seemed mature for his age and ready to conquer the world. He was wise beyond his years and felt like an old soul.
Okaaaaay?!!..I am of the opinion that in Wolfèa he saw a part that his order had always longed for.
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Kro92813 wrote: 03 Sep 2019, 23:37
Washboard wrote: 03 Sep 2019, 21:14
Kro92813 wrote: 03 Sep 2019, 04:34 Yeah it definitly was not explained why they were given a pet (maybe to have a companion since the children there have been cast away from their families?). I think it was a way to tie in Damian and Dea - the wolf and falcon at the beginning of the book, but I mean Will choosing Wolfea really wasn't that significant to the plot. Wolfea's story was getting adopted by Will, tied up in a tree kennel, then escaping to Olam Shone with Will. She didnt significantly help Will in any way and wasn't a very helpful supporting role.
I agree. I felt like the pets didn't progress the plot at all, other than maybe showing Will's compassion a bit more by rescuing Wolfea and caring for her. It felt really out of place to me.
I also think there was a lot of missed opportunity for the pets - namely Wolfea - to be heroic in some way. When the group visited olam shone, Poudini and Wolfea just trotted on ahead of the group. When Peter and Will were clinging for dear life in the raging river, Wolfea could have rescued them...or when the spiders were attacking she could have attacked back. When Warloch killed the wolf pups she could have done something...
I don't think Wolfea could have helped in any of those situations. They are too big for Wolfea to handle. Just my opinion.
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Nuel Ukah wrote: 23 Sep 2019, 16:22
Kro92813 wrote: 03 Sep 2019, 23:37
Washboard wrote: 03 Sep 2019, 21:14

I agree. I felt like the pets didn't progress the plot at all, other than maybe showing Will's compassion a bit more by rescuing Wolfea and caring for her. It felt really out of place to me.
I also think there was a lot of missed opportunity for the pets - namely Wolfea - to be heroic in some way. When the group visited olam shone, Poudini and Wolfea just trotted on ahead of the group. When Peter and Will were clinging for dear life in the raging river, Wolfea could have rescued them...or when the spiders were attacking she could have attacked back. When Warloch killed the wolf pups she could have done something...
I don't think Wolfea could have helped in any of those situations. They are too big for Wolfea to handle. Just my opinion.
I completely agree with you. I did not see Wolfea succeeding in those situations.
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Animals often serve the purpose of representing their human counterparts in books. Harry Potter and Hedwig for example. Both are brave and loyal. Both Jon Snow and his Ghost are loners, warriors, and outcasts. I viewed this no differently.
Wolfea and Will were both out of place, outsiders, and loyal to those loyal to them.
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I love the concept of giving pet to the children as a tradition, although I will prefer it being explained but I guess they want the children for find the reason for the companion from their relationship.
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I also think the presence of the animal characters adds nothing to the plot expect to bring some kind of depth to the story and a way to appeal to the compassion of the human characters.
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I really enjoyed the addition of the pets to the story, even if perhaps they were not explained. I do wish they had played a larger role in the story. People love animals so I think it was a missed opportunity for greater audience buy in.
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dreamonkdr wrote: 23 Sep 2019, 17:48 Animals often serve the purpose of representing their human counterparts in books. Harry Potter and Hedwig for example. Both are brave and loyal. Both Jon Snow and his Ghost are loners, warriors, and outcasts. I viewed this no differently.
Wolfea and Will were both out of place, outsiders, and loyal to those loyal to them.
I like this analogy. That they both were outsiders and didnt belong. And the loyalty is spot on
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Wyland wrote: 24 Sep 2019, 08:44 I also think the presence of the animal characters adds nothing to the plot expect to bring some kind of depth to the story and a way to appeal to the compassion of the human characters.
To show wills compassion for helping those in need and to exemplify those who are simply evil (like the gamekeeper)
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dreamonkdr wrote: 23 Sep 2019, 17:48 Animals often serve the purpose of representing their human counterparts in books. Harry Potter and Hedwig for example. Both are brave and loyal. Both Jon Snow and his Ghost are loners, warriors, and outcasts. I viewed this no differently.
Wolfea and Will were both out of place, outsiders, and loyal to those loyal to them.
That is an interest8ng way of finding a unique similarity between Will and Wolfèa.
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Orizon wrote: 24 Sep 2019, 04:22 I love the concept of giving pet to the children as a tradition, although I will prefer it being explained but I guess they want the children for find the reason for the companion from their relationship.
Companionship is the most obvious or reasonable purpose for introducing pets to Orphanage children.
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Wyland wrote: 24 Sep 2019, 08:44 I also think the presence of the animal characters adds nothing to the plot expect to bring some kind of depth to the story and a way to appeal to the compassion of the human characters.
Yes, I think it brought out the emotional side of the characters like Will and Peter, and even Emmy.
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