Do you follow politics?

TiffanyJade · Post by **TiffanyJade** » 29 Jul 2014, 09:10

Nope. I try to stay neutral and I'm far happier not knowing too much. I like to stay in my book worlds.

suzy1124 · Post by **suzy1124** » 29 Jul 2014, 13:59

Definition of an elephant: " A mouse built to govt. specifications "

LimeRicky · Post by **LimeRicky** » 29 Jul 2014, 16:15

What's the difference between a conservative and a liberal?
A liberal hasn't been mugged yet.

-- 29 Jul 2014, 20:22 --

Carla Hurst-Chandler wrote:In American politics it is baffling to see people actively vote against their best interests. While we are busy infighting they (collectively) are passing laws to infringe on our freedoms/rights...or laughing all the way to the bank while busy telling us not to "pay attention to that man (those people) behind the curtain. Voter ignorance and apathy is rampant here with many mindlessly voting instead of taking time to research where the candidates stand or (worse) not bothering to get off the sofa and vote at all. Our taxes pay these people's inflated salaries. We ELECT them. We are their employers. Instead of voting brand-recognition or who looks the best...et al....we need to get back to voting for the person best suited for the job. And fire those who refuse to do the job we elected them to do.

Hey, you! My goodness, Carla, you're blood is really up. See you on the Papa Mike page.

suzy1124 · Post by **suzy1124** » 30 Jul 2014, 05:11

WASHINGTON D.C........

How many ppl does it take to change a light bulb?...four, one to change it and the other three to deny it...

Carla Hurst-Chandler · Post by **Carla Hurst-Chandler** » 30 Jul 2014, 06:59

LimeRicky wrote:What's the difference between a conservative and a liberal?
A liberal hasn't been mugged yet.

-- 29 Jul 2014, 20:22 --

Carla Hurst-Chandler wrote:In American politics it is baffling to see people actively vote against their best interests. While we are busy infighting they (collectively) are passing laws to infringe on our freedoms/rights...or laughing all the way to the bank while busy telling us not to "pay attention to that man (those people) behind the curtain. Voter ignorance and apathy is rampant here with many mindlessly voting instead of taking time to research where the candidates stand or (worse) not bothering to get off the sofa and vote at all. Our taxes pay these people's inflated salaries. We ELECT them. We are their employers. Instead of voting brand-recognition or who looks the best...et al....we need to get back to voting for the person best suited for the job. And fire those who refuse to do the job we elected them to do.
Hey, you! My goodness, Carla, you're blood is really up. See you on the Papa Mike page.

I tend to take decisions that affect my daily life and the lives of my children/grandchildren et al...pretty seriously. Sadly, I thought this might be a thread open to intelligent discussion...instead of not-always-so-witty one-liners. That attitude toward the political process is what has American Politics in the sad state of affairs it is in.

suzy1124 · Post by **suzy1124** » 30 Jul 2014, 07:09

" Outside of the " killings " Washington D.C. has one of the lowest crime rates in the country "....Marion Barry, mayor of Washington D.C....

LimeRicky · Post by **LimeRicky** » 30 Jul 2014, 08:57

Carla: I had a long, involved post prepared, then thought better of it. But I
see now it would have matched your ire. So here goes.
I've voted in every Presidential election since 1964. I voted Johnson/Humphrey.
I think most of them are referendums on a President's foreign policy. And usually
too little too late. I hear all your reasons for being involved in the political process.
The President should answer to his constituents. But that's not realpolitik. He answers
to his investors, like Wall Street. There are 100's of people in the banking industry,
brokerage houses, and mortgage institutions that belong in jail. They purposely
engineered the recession/depression that began with Madoff's arrest and continues
even now(albeit to a lesser degree). And why not? Most of them wrote disclaimers
into the contracts they had with the institutions they represented that said they wouldn't be responsible if it tanked. The Attorney General has laws at his disposal
to go after these people. It's why RICO was created.
My one liner might seem inappropriate to you, but I believe it's a fair measure of
the two party system as it exists today. There is no two party system. A first term
senator or representative learns pretty quick that his future depends lots more
on capital sent to an off shore account by lobbyists, than it does his constituency.
We've seen over and over again examples of apathy or contempt shown voters once
Diamond Jim's in office. There are thousands(maybe 100's of thousands) of weldors
who are out of work in this country. I was one of them. But when CalTrans needed
a replacement section for the Nimitz Freeway built, they hired a Chinese company
with Chinese weldors. Not only to build it, but install it. It was a big job, guys would
probably have had a year of continuos employment. This is not an isolated example
of how things work. It's representative. If you think my joke is representative of what's
hurting the political process, you're being incredibly naive. I could talk from now until
the day flamingos fly about the process. And vote my conscience every election. But
that won't make elected officials honest. They can avoid being dishonest by changing
a law. I can't think of anything more damaging to American workers than NAFTA.
But it was real popular with Congress. They must not have gotten that Molotov cocktail I sent them. If they had, they wouldn't have done what they did. I'm their Boss, they're
not allowed to s*it on me. I love you Carla. And I'll vote for you when you run for President. And I'll stop telling stupid jokes(there's just no end to cruel and unusual is there?). But if the Sultan of Brunei calls, don't hang up. He's got lots of friends in the
right places.

suzy1124 · Post by **suzy1124** » 30 Jul 2014, 09:03

Just " follow the money "

Carla Hurst-Chandler · Post by **Carla Hurst-Chandler** » 30 Jul 2014, 13:17

~laughing~ Well thanks for telling me how you really feel...and the one-liner comment was generalized...not aimed. I think it helps when people realize that the President (any of them present or past) is basically a figurehead and that the Representatives we elect to the House and Senate determine which way the wind blows. I agree that in the past 20+ years there has been a huge shift and Corporations/Special Interests pump way way way too much money into our political process and that expecting Corporations to do anything for anyone except pad their own bottom lines is like trusting the fox to watch the hen-house. (i.e. The CalTran Nimitz Project) I feel the same way about some of these career politicians in the House/Senate. And for (at least) the 112th and 113th Congress both sides have been too busy infighting to accomplish anything. We need to thin the herd (and speaking of thin the herd..have you SEEN some of these Representatives???? They haven't missed a meal in a long long time) Short of an Ebola Outbreak...perhaps we should use our collective powers as voters to remove them from office. Too many people are uninformed voters...and THIS is what comes of it.

Running on the Throw the Bastards Out Ticket!

You'd vote for me???????????????

stoppoppingtheP · Post by **stoppoppingtheP** » 05 Aug 2014, 07:20

wow^^

suzy1124 · Post by **suzy1124** » 05 Aug 2014, 08:07

Double wow...

Carla Hurst-Chandler · Post by **Carla Hurst-Chandler** » 06 Aug 2014, 18:43

Okay....The Peace Corps is flying their bunch back from the E-zone. Good Samaritan not only brought their group home but also paid to fly the Doctor and Nurse (infected) to Atlanta along with the CDC. Spain is flying back an infected priest and there are now 7 countries with active Ebola in them. Apparently, the outbreak just wasn't spreading quick enough for them.... (rolling my eyes) I can see this ending badly.

suzy1124 · Post by **suzy1124** » 07 Aug 2014, 01:04

" very badly "....Truth is stranger than fiction "

Carla Hurst-Chandler · Post by **Carla Hurst-Chandler** » 07 Aug 2014, 06:43

A friend of mine, Gail...lives in Botswana...hell and gone from the Outbreak...and they are already distributing fliers and health warnings for her area. Here in the states we are being told "....don't worry be happy..." Watched them pull this crap with HIV/AIDS in the 80's. We started with around 10 active cases. Now there are 1.1 Million cases (per the CDC) in the US.

Oh, and Ebola is much much much easier to transmit/catch than AIDS.

~sigh~