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They call this gnostic atheism but I have no idea, eh.
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I live my life by one saying…"I treat people the way I want to be treated"
I don't want to be talked or gossiped about so I don't do it about others.
I don't want people to be mean to me so I am not mean to to others.
I don't want to be stolen from so I don't do it to others.
I don't want to be lied to so I don't lie to others…or as my family calls it "we don't blow sunshine up your butt to make you happy", lol.
And this is the most important one to me….
I don't want to be judged so I don't judge other instead I try to understand their choices and beliefs.
Etc. etc. etc.
I don't understand how people can claim to be Christian but not accept all kinds of people regardless of race, color, faith, sexual orientation, wealth, etc.
That really bothers me.
It's really simple. Too bad many people don't seem to follow that one simple rule.
I do really like the Native American Commandments
1. Treat the Earth and all that dwell thereon with respect.
2. Remain close to the Great Spirit, in all that you do.(this I take as my inner spirit and strength)
3. Show great respect for your fellow beings.
(Especially Respect yourself)
4. Work together for the benefit of all Mankind.
5. Give assistance and kindness wherever needed.
6. Do what you know to be right.
(But be careful not to fall into self-righteousness)
7. Look after the well being of mind and body.
8. Dedicate a share of your efforts to the greater good.
9. Be truthful and honest at all times.
(Especially be truthful and honest with your self)
10. Take full responsibility for your actions
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I just looked up The Ethical Precepts of Zen Buddhism. It seems pretty easy to follow except for #1," I will be mindful and reverential with all life, I will not be violent nor will I kill."Carla Hurst-Chandler wrote:Raised Pentecostal...left the "church" years ago. Converted to a Zen Buddhist philosophy (atheistic in nature) about seven years ago. So to answer the question- No I do not.
Does that mean you can't hunt for food if needed? Are all Buddhists vegetarians or am I being too literal again?
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I am Zen Buddhist and where a great many Buddhists are vegetarians...many are not. I am an omnivore and have hunted and fished throughout my life...although these days the meat I consume is typically from Kroger...lol! Through the centuries (Buddhism pre-dates Christianity nearly 600 years) different sects and "rules" have sprung up...but I think the Dalai Lama says it best: My religion is compassion.ylisa7 wrote:I just looked up The Ethical Precepts of Zen Buddhism. It seems pretty easy to follow except for #1," I will be mindful and reverential with all life, I will not be violent nor will I kill."Carla Hurst-Chandler wrote:Raised Pentecostal...left the "church" years ago. Converted to a Zen Buddhist philosophy (atheistic in nature) about seven years ago. So to answer the question- No I do not.
Does that mean you can't hunt for food if needed? Are all Buddhists vegetarians or am I being too literal again?
There is a tendency to over-think these things.
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So interesting! I identify myself with all of this. I didn't know about the Ten Native American Commandments and they really resonate a lot of what I try to be and do every day.ylisa7 wrote:No I don't believe in God. I was not raised with any religion and I never needed it. When I was younger I joined a group at a church. I told the pastor how I felt. He told me I had to have faith. Therein lies my biggest problem. I cannot have faith in something/someone I cannot see, touch or feel.
I live my life by one saying…"I treat people the way I want to be treated"
I don't want to be talked or gossiped about so I don't do it about others.
I don't want people to be mean to me so I am not mean to to others.
I don't want to be stolen from so I don't do it to others.
I don't want to be lied to so I don't lie to others…or as my family calls it "we don't blow sunshine up your butt to make you happy", lol.
And this is the most important one to me….
I don't want to be judged so I don't judge other instead I try to understand their choices and beliefs.
Etc. etc. etc.
I don't understand how people can claim to be Christian but not accept all kinds of people regardless of race, color, faith, sexual orientation, wealth, etc.
That really bothers me.
It's really simple. Too bad many people don't seem to follow that one simple rule.
I do really like the Native American Commandments
1. Treat the Earth and all that dwell thereon with respect.
2. Remain close to the Great Spirit, in all that you do.(this I take as my inner spirit and strength)
3. Show great respect for your fellow beings.
(Especially Respect yourself)
4. Work together for the benefit of all Mankind.
5. Give assistance and kindness wherever needed.
6. Do what you know to be right.
(But be careful not to fall into self-righteousness)
7. Look after the well being of mind and body.
8. Dedicate a share of your efforts to the greater good.
9. Be truthful and honest at all times.
(Especially be truthful and honest with your self)
10. Take full responsibility for your actions
Don't know if you know Krishnamurti (my favorite thinker!), but here's a little quote of his that describes a lot what I think:
“When you call yourself an Indian or a Muslim or a Christian or a European, or anything else, you are being violent. Do you see why it is violent? Because you are separating yourself from the rest of mankind. When you separate yourself by belief, by nationality, by tradition, it breeds violence. So a man who is seeking to understand violence does not belong to any country, to any religion, to any political party or partial system; he is concerned with the total understanding of mankind.”
I really have to read his books.
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Ah…thanks for the clarification. I do tend to over think and be too literal, lol. My stepdaughter calls me Literal LisaCarla Hurst-Chandler wrote:I am Zen Buddhist and where a great many Buddhists are vegetarians...many are not. I am an omnivore and have hunted and fished throughout my life...although these days the meat I consume is typically from Kroger...lol! Through the centuries (Buddhism pre-dates Christianity nearly 600 years) different sects and "rules" have sprung up...but I think the Dalai Lama says it best: My religion is compassion.ylisa7 wrote:I just looked up The Ethical Precepts of Zen Buddhism. It seems pretty easy to follow except for #1," I will be mindful and reverential with all life, I will not be violent nor will I kill."Carla Hurst-Chandler wrote:Raised Pentecostal...left the "church" years ago. Converted to a Zen Buddhist philosophy (atheistic in nature) about seven years ago. So to answer the question- No I do not.
Does that mean you can't hunt for food if needed? Are all Buddhists vegetarians or am I being too literal again?
There is a tendency to over-think these things.

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So interesting! I identify myself with all of this. I didn't know about the Ten Native American Commandments and they really resonate a lot of what I try to be and do every day.
Don't know if you know Krishnamurti (my favorite thinker!), but here's a little quote of his that describes a lot what I think:
“When you call yourself an Indian or a Muslim or a Christian or a European, or anything else, you are being violent. Do you see why it is violent? Because you are separating yourself from the rest of mankind. When you separate yourself by belief, by nationality, by tradition, it breeds violence. So a man who is seeking to understand violence does not belong to any country, to any religion, to any political party or partial system; he is concerned with the total understanding of mankind.”
I really have to read his books.
I find many different religions fascinating. There are "some" good lessons to be learned in all religions.
Interesting quote and I can agree to an extent. We should all be united but sadly that is impossible. We have all been raised differently, have different life experiences and different beliefs. That in itself doesn't make us violent just different. I have a problem when a religion excludes certain people or cultures because of their beliefs. While history does prove that religion is the cause of much violence and so many deaths it will not go away. I wish we could have a true understanding of all mankind. What a nice world that would be.
It's kind of like the song Imagine by John Lennon. Great lyrics and intent but still delusional in the world we live in.
Try to find the good where you can, be a good example, and get rid of the toxic people in your life

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Oh definitely. I know because I live almost in a way that's Utopic for most people (I'm vegan, an animal activist, also donate old clothes, food and money whenever possible) but I try not to be uptight or self-righteous, because I truly am doing what I think it's best for me, for the planet and generations to come.ylisa7 wrote:Himmelslicht wrote:
So interesting! I identify myself with all of this. I didn't know about the Ten Native American Commandments and they really resonate a lot of what I try to be and do every day.
Don't know if you know Krishnamurti (my favorite thinker!), but here's a little quote of his that describes a lot what I think:
“When you call yourself an Indian or a Muslim or a Christian or a European, or anything else, you are being violent. Do you see why it is violent? Because you are separating yourself from the rest of mankind. When you separate yourself by belief, by nationality, by tradition, it breeds violence. So a man who is seeking to understand violence does not belong to any country, to any religion, to any political party or partial system; he is concerned with the total understanding of mankind.”
I really have to read his books.
I find many different religions fascinating. There are "some" good lessons to be learned in all religions.
Interesting quote and I can agree to an extent. We should all be united but sadly that is impossible. We have all been raised differently, have different life experiences and different beliefs. That in itself doesn't make us violent just different. I have a problem when a religion excludes certain people or cultures because of their beliefs. While history does prove that religion is the cause of much violence and so many deaths it will not go away. I wish we could have a true understanding of all mankind. What a nice world that would be.
It's kind of like the song Imagine by John Lennon. Great lyrics and intent but still delusional in the world we live in.
Try to find the good where you can, be a good example, and get rid of the toxic people in your life
Of course I have so many flaws I can't even begin with, but one day at a time, aha.

I think the world needs more delusional people though, don't you agree?
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