Do you think this book marks the end or christianity?

Joy Catap · Post by **Joy Catap** » 07 Jul 2019, 01:10

This is not the first book to attack Christianity. Hundred of books are out there, hoping to destroy Christianity and failing to do so. Christianity is still here, thriving despite the odds. You see, we are raised with different views and beliefs. Not all people will read this book. And not all people who will read this book will believe it.

Sahansdal · Post by **Sahansdal** » 07 Jul 2019, 15:47

Joy Catap wrote: ↑07 Jul 2019, 01:10 This is not the first book to attack Christianity. Hundred of books are out there, hoping to destroy Christianity and failing to do so. Christianity is still here, thriving despite the odds. You see, we are raised with different views and beliefs. Not all people will read this book. And not all people who will read this book will believe it.

But anyone with an honestly open mind will read this and realize there is no possible historical Jesus: https://www.amazon.com/Historicity-Jesu ... 933&sr=1-2

That or this: http://www.amazon.com/James-Brother-Jes ... pd_sim_b_2

So there are two other authors who destroyed Christianity. I destroy it too, but from another angle. It wasn't my goal, just a happy byproduct. Sorry Christians have not understood what they missed. They should be really rejoicing because now they can actually go and SEE the Master. (John 6:40)

Here> He comes to America later this month: https://fayettevilleprogram.org/ and www.petalumaprogram.org

Post by **Alys Sterk** » 08 Jul 2019, 18:52

Janalyn101 wrote: ↑02 May 2019, 08:18 I didn’t mean to make it sound like Mr. Heller’s Herculean effort in writing this book and researching it is inconsequential. He did a great job and it is a book that makes you think at least it made me think

Yes! And any book that makes you think is a good book. After I finished it, I thought about it for a long time..... You have to wonder at all the other things we have recently found not to be true....

Sahansdal · Post by **Sahansdal** » 08 Jul 2019, 18:58

Kansas City Teacher wrote: ↑08 Jul 2019, 18:52
Janalyn101 wrote: ↑02 May 2019, 08:18 I didn’t mean to make it sound like Mr. Heller’s Herculean effort in writing this book and researching it is inconsequential. He did a great job and it is a book that makes you think at least it made me think
Yes! And any book that makes you think is a good book. After I finished it, I thought about it for a long time..... You have to wonder at all the other things we have recently found not to be true....

Thanks. Those are the most satisfying comments I get. I know I have done my job, at least for you.

Florence Nalianya · Post by **Florence Nalianya** » 09 Jul 2019, 07:12

The book doesn't mark the end of Christianity for I view it as an opener to heated discussions and arguments about religion and the interpretation of the Bible at large. Looks like an interesting turn of events.

Heatholt · Post by **Heatholt** » 09 Jul 2019, 11:36

I agree that it would be impossible for a single book to "END" Christianity. However, I do love books like this that shake-up peoples preconceived notions about things that happened centuries ago. It is a good thing in our society to think outside the box.

slbuchanan · Post by **slbuchanan** » 10 Jul 2019, 06:18

lisalynn wrote: ↑02 May 2019, 08:30 One book end Christianity? That's like saying, will dipping a bucket of water from the Pacific Ocean cause it to dry up.

Couldn't have said it better myself. This book offered a fresh perspective and different look into Christianity but one book can't end a world religion that's existed for thousands of years not do I think that is the intention.

Ikigai · Post by **Ikigai** » 11 Jul 2019, 05:18

Christianity is too powerful to be ended by a book. The book might bring a question mark in discussion, but I don't think it will shake the faith of true believers. Even in the worse scenario, at least one Christian will still stand.

Sahansdal · Post by **Sahansdal** » 11 Jul 2019, 10:49

Ikigai wrote: ↑11 Jul 2019, 05:18 Christianity is too powerful to be ended by a book. The book might bring a question mark in discussion, but I don't think it will shake the faith of true believers. Even in the worse scenario, at least one Christian will still stand.

I say point-blank, "This is not about any religion!" It just means Christianity is no longer viable. People will continue to believe, but the religion as a teaching is now exposed as false. You don't need to make stuff up to support true teachings. Sant Mat is true, and so are many other teachings. Christianity is FALSE. Nobody is saved by somebody else dying. - the Author.

Bhaskins · Post by **Bhaskins** » 11 Jul 2019, 11:23

I appreciate this question because as someone who isn't religious I was wondering about reading this book and if it might be for me. The title scared me a bit. But seeing the discussion to your post made me open up a bit. I married into a semi-religious family and am always open to learning, but religion is not always my cup of tea.

Sahansdal · Post by **Sahansdal** » 11 Jul 2019, 13:09

Bhaskins wrote: ↑11 Jul 2019, 11:23 I appreciate this question because as someone who isn't religious I was wondering about reading this book and if it might be for me. The title scared me a bit. But seeing the discussion to your post made me open up a bit. I married into a semi-religious family and am always open to learning, but religion is not always my cup of tea.

There will always be those who seek to distort the truth for selfish ends. That evidently is the case with the New Testament. The Old Testament is just fine. Zechariah is one of my very favorite writings. But the Gospels are not history, and not true teaching. They are through-and-through disinformation, and disinformation with a mission. That mission was to dissuade people of the time from following James, a real savior. Those who were Paul's followers started the new religion of Christianity and then ultimately killed James. (Jesus didn't start anything new, if he indeed was a real person at all. I highly doubt he was real. Both he and Judas were literary inventions to hide James. The evidence comes up over and over.) > http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/anf08.v ... i.lxx.html

This is the breakthrough book on mythicism, in my view. Mythicism says Jesus is mythical. http://www.amazon.com/Dead-Sea-Scrolls- ... s+eisenman

Sahansdal · Post by **Sahansdal** » 12 Jul 2019, 11:06

AntonelaMaria wrote: ↑28 May 2019, 05:00 Short answer would be ...No.
Connecting Bible passages and telling what he or she believes them to be said is something every christian does when reading Bible or most of them...But I can only speak for myself and for that all I can say is I find his book to be his interpretation, and one book can never be end of religion.

You have to read outside the Bible to understand it. If you only read Harry Potter books, you might believe witches ride brooms.

Sahansdal · Post by **Sahansdal** » 12 Jul 2019, 11:09

Amanda Newton wrote: ↑28 May 2019, 22:16
56lives wrote: ↑24 May 2019, 08:26 I do not understand the question properly. Is it the end of Christianity? If yes, then I will say that a single book based on academic research cannot end Christianity. Christianity has stood the test of time, actually more than 2000 years. I believe that Christianity is more than a religion. It is life. As such no publication will ever stop its surge.
This explains how I feel. I feel like no published book, no matter how well written, can END Christianity.

Not just mine, but several others. Dr. Richard Carrier, "On the Historicity of Jesus," and Dr. Robert Eisenman, "James the Brother of Jesus" are two others.

Sahansdal · Post by **Sahansdal** » 12 Jul 2019, 11:11

Daniel_ wrote: ↑03 Jun 2019, 00:58 Mark the end of Christianity?... Impossible!
Christianity which as being for thousands of years before us can't be brought to an end by a book. Asides, beyond Christianity being a religion is a thing of the heart.

We've only had the Dead Sea Scrolls and Nag Hammadi for a generation. It will take some time, but not a millenium. It's over.

Yasinta venance34 · Post by **Yasinta venance34** » 13 Jul 2019, 15:57

I think the book can not end Christianity. That depends on the strength of one's faith. If you are weak obviously you will believe the words against the bible due to research of the author.