History repeats itself! Is this true?

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History always repeats itself, yes. However, not everything is to be taken at face value, the bible is full of paradoxes and hidden meanings. I believe each country and region has its fair share of the five, bad events are always occurring on a yearly basis, some are global like climate change and covid-19, some are-specific. Election sare always occurring and at a point we always get a new crop of leaders, countries, and regions have always been at war at some point since historical times, most of the time propagated by selfish human reasons. Death is somethings even leaders cannot escape and since they are humans I do not see the big issue. I believe these are not to be taken at literal value.
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Guda LM wrote: 08 Mar 2021, 23:11 History always repeats itself, yes. However, not everything is to be taken at face value, the bible is full of paradoxes and hidden meanings. I believe each country and region has its fair share of the five, bad events are always occurring on a yearly basis, some are global like climate change and covid-19, some are-specific. Election sare always occurring and at a point we always get a new crop of leaders, countries, and regions have always been at war at some point since historical times, most of the time propagated by selfish human reasons. Death is somethings even leaders cannot escape and since they are humans I do not see the big issue. I believe these are not to be taken at literal value.
Well, actually the author has not just taken them in literal value, but has compared these events that happened in relation to the appearances of these Messiahs. After that only he had marked a pattern. So, if we do not take them in literal value, what about the promised Messiah that everyone (who believe) looking forward to? Is it just another riddle?
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Yeah while reading the scriptures, I have also noticed the foregoing pattern. And I most definitely agree that history repeats itself.
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Well, there's a quality about God, and that is the fact that he is transcendent - beyond all human understanding. Therefore, we cannot resolutely study history and predict God's will for His people.
The mind adapts and converts to its own purposes the obstacle to our acting. The impediment to action advances action. What stands in the way becomes the way. - Marcus Aurelius
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Megamind136 wrote: 04 Mar 2021, 15:08 History might repeat it self when the dealings is piloted by man. But when it comes to God. He doesn't work with what history says, he works in ways that will help us.
I agree with you. The only reason we may see or think there is a form of repetition is because he is constantly doing what would benefit his children.
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Life, history, and bible is full of cycles. I remember old testament where the books summarizing the accomplishments of kings by how many years of peace they were able to achieve. Then down the road a new struggle would come and a new leader would struggle to bring peace. The judges of Israel guided the nation through similar cycles. In such cycles people seek to repeat the good things that come out them, and they seek to due away with the bad. Does this lead to repeats? You can argue yes, some intentional and some not. Or you might argue that it's more a pattern of rhymes. After all, drawing parallels is easy with such a rich range of time on the ticking clock. However, we haven't seen countries return to legalized slavery since it's been outlawed. We haven't seen women loose the right to vote in countries where they have already won the freedom. Christ told us he will come again, but his return will not be to re-bring salvation to world, but to see through our transition into the next. Life has developments, and sometimes it takes others a while to catch up with the world-leading developers.
“History doesn’t repeat itself, but it does rhyme” - Mark Twain. Dare we say the same thing about every story that gets told in the world?
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History does repeat itself. In most religious scriptures one can find this happening time and time again. Why is it happening though? If carefully noticed these events occur only when humans start to forget the Creator and start to live an immoral life. They drift away from the right path and live a life of ignorance. Then something significant happens and they are on track again. The important thing to notice here is that humans are forgetful and they need to be brought back to the right path again and again. This is the way of God trying to make humans memorize a hard lesson.
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Megamind136 wrote: 04 Mar 2021, 15:08 History might repeat it self when the dealings is piloted by man. But when it comes to God. He doesn't work with what history says, he works in ways that will help us.
I totally agree with you. History doesn't determine how God operates. What the author is simply driving at is that these hindrances will ultimately prevent the fulfilment of God's agenda which isn't true. When the set date for their fulfilment comes, certainly God's desires will be made manifest.
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Looking back through history, things do seem to reoccur. With everything going on in the world presently with the corona virus, this has been likened to other pandemics in history. Also climate changes seem to have repeated over the centuries. I think it is possible that events are cyclical.
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It's true that history repeats itself. This is depicted by political and social occurrences. However, God is powerful and works in mysterious ways. I feel that when it comes to biblical events, history doesn't repeat itself.
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Well, history does repeat itself, or so I believe. But biblical events, even though they are prophecies of some kind, can't be interpreted literally. There is always a deeper hidden meaning behind every verse. Therefore, it may or may not be true.
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Just an addition to my previous post, I think everyone has their own interpretations of the Bible and in this case, it is just the author's views.
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Sushan wrote: 04 Mar 2021, 06:50
Bertha Jackson wrote: 03 Mar 2021, 17:20 History continually repeats itself. Look at the division in our country today. This division has many of the same aspects as the Civil War. Conditions in the Middle East today are similar to the times during the Bible.
Well, we can see similarities if we want to see them. And also if we want to see differences and say that history never repeats, we can do that as well. What matters is the perspective that we see from. As I believe, history may rhyme, but not repeat itself
I love this view 😂😂history only rhymes but does not repeat itself, I think it is true. Say the technology we have now weren't there before even though there are quite some remarkable similarities.
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Hhannahh wrote: 04 Mar 2021, 01:40 Sure history does repeat itself, especially in political and social affairs. But with regards to spiritual affairs, such as God's divine plan, I am not certain.
Very true. For spiritual issues, it is best not to attach personal views. As one scripture says, whatever is God's, leave it to God and spiritual things are discerned spiritually.
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How about we are the ones who make history repeat itself. Take countries which have been continually ruled by barbaric and totalitarian governments but all of a sudden the citizens decide to change the cycle.
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