Did certain parts of the book make you uncomfortable?

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Ferdinand_otieno wrote: 25 Sep 2019, 00:49
Kro92813 wrote: 24 Sep 2019, 20:44
Moray_001 wrote: 23 Sep 2019, 19:39 From the book description, I’m pretty sure that some dark aspects are to be expected. Not everything is well and good even in a fantasy land.
and in all reality, a book would be pretty boring if it was all rainbows and butterflies :P
Even Children's books have a little bit of a downside, that's how critical it is to most plots.
And I've read a ton of childrens books with a toddler in the house :lol2: theres always some problem that needs to be solved
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Ferdinand_otieno wrote: 25 Sep 2019, 00:52
Kro92813 wrote: 24 Sep 2019, 21:48
Inkroverts wrote: 24 Sep 2019, 21:43 I've seen similar unnecessary cruelties like drowning small animals in other books and movies. I can guess that their purposes are to make the audience feel sympathy and anger, and they mostly succeed, even though I can't see the point of them in the plot.
I think in this particular scene it was to show how mongrels were treated in Echoland. The wolf pup that was being killed was a mongrel and Fortis Fortuna mentions later in the book that Mongrels are meant to be killed (whether they are humans or animals)
Even Fortis Fortuna's mentality was another uncomfortable addition in the book.
Yes! I thought Fortis would be a good guguy but he came off as manipulative and dark...and frankly creepy!
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Kro92813 wrote: 25 Sep 2019, 18:56
Ferdinand_otieno wrote: 25 Sep 2019, 00:49
Kro92813 wrote: 24 Sep 2019, 20:44

and in all reality, a book would be pretty boring if it was all rainbows and butterflies :P
Even Children's books have a little bit of a downside, that's how critical it is to most plots.
And I've read a ton of childrens books with a toddler in the house :lol2: theres always some problem that needs to be solved
Yes, there always is s problem to be solved.
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Kro92813 wrote: 25 Sep 2019, 18:58
Ferdinand_otieno wrote: 25 Sep 2019, 00:52
Kro92813 wrote: 24 Sep 2019, 21:48

I think in this particular scene it was to show how mongrels were treated in Echoland. The wolf pup that was being killed was a mongrel and Fortis Fortuna mentions later in the book that Mongrels are meant to be killed (whether they are humans or animals)
Even Fortis Fortuna's mentality was another uncomfortable addition in the book.
Yes! I thought Fortis would be a good guguy but he came off as manipulative and dark...and frankly creepy!
I was dreading Will and William having to deal with him in the course of the book.
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Generally, the violence and eerieness of the book create an ominous ambiance that weave an uncomfortable mood throughout the story. Specifically, children being taken away from their parents was a plot point that made me feel uncomfortable.
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ElizaBeth Adams wrote: 26 Sep 2019, 08:19 Generally, the violence and eerieness of the book create an ominous ambiance that weave an uncomfortable mood throughout the story. Specifically, children being taken away from their parents was a plot point that made me feel uncomfortable.
And not just the sounds! Echoes were taken from their crib and turned into fate sealers through torture. That's pretty aweful!
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ElizaBeth Adams wrote: 26 Sep 2019, 08:19 Generally, the violence and eerieness of the book create an ominous ambiance that weave an uncomfortable mood throughout the story. Specifically, children being taken away from their parents was a plot point that made me feel uncomfortable.
The fate Sealers, the Game Keeper, and their unnecessary and cruel treatment of puppies and other pets were a very uncomfortable for me.
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In YA fantasy in general many villains tend to be unnecessarily cruel. I think this convention is a nod by the author to the random injustices of childhood/adolescence.
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KDJ wrote: 01 Sep 2019, 09:57
gali wrote: 31 Aug 2019, 23:06 Did certain parts of the book make you uncomfortable?

I was uncomfortable when the keeper gave will's wolf a salty water. I also didn't like the drowning of the puppies.
I agree those were the worst parts, but I was also uncomfortable with Emmy being taken to Shadowpain. That seemed unnecessarily cruel because of how young she was. And her PTSD seems to be unhandled, like she has not had counseling. Those were also uncomfortable for me.
Yes, Emmy being taken to Shadowpain was cruel. I wasn't comfortable with it
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gali wrote: 31 Aug 2019, 23:06 Did certain parts of the book make you uncomfortable?

I was uncomfortable when the keeper gave will's wolf a salty water. I also didn't like the drowning of the puppies.
I live dogs to death. Also any other animal in the dog family. So you can be certain that the drowning of puppies would get my mind up any day, any time.
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ElizaBeth Adams wrote: 26 Sep 2019, 08:19 Generally, the violence and eerieness of the book create an ominous ambiance that weave an uncomfortable mood throughout the story. Specifically, children being taken away from their parents was a plot point that made me feel uncomfortable.
This book looks like it paints a grim picture throughout the length of the story. I have no problem with violence-themed content in general. However, in this context — violence against kids — it would definitely rile me up.
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KDJ wrote: 01 Sep 2019, 09:57
gali wrote: 31 Aug 2019, 23:06 Did certain parts of the book make you uncomfortable?

I was uncomfortable when the keeper gave will's wolf a salty water. I also didn't like the drowning of the puppies.
I agree those were the worst parts, but I was also uncomfortable with Emmy being taken to Shadowpain. That seemed unnecessarily cruel because of how young she was. And her PTSD seems to be unhandled, like she has not had counseling. Those were also uncomfortable for me.
Even though I haven't read the book these parts truly are uncomfortable to read and I hope these were the only parts in the story.
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The ice had coated her entire body like a coffin. There she lay, frozen in an instant of horror, screaming forever without sound. “Mom!” Will choked—
Pellucid, Dew. The Crystilleries of Echoland (p. 28). Nothing but the Story. Kindle Edition.

This was the first uncomfortable scene for me.
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Ferdinand_otieno wrote: 26 Sep 2019, 03:04
Kro92813 wrote: 25 Sep 2019, 18:58
Ferdinand_otieno wrote: 25 Sep 2019, 00:52
Even Fortis Fortuna's mentality was another uncomfortable addition in the book.
Yes! I thought Fortis would be a good guguy but he came off as manipulative and dark...and frankly creepy!
I was dreading Will and William having to deal with him in the course of the book.
I didnt dread it outright, because I didnt realize how creepy and evil he would come off as! But during *shudder* i wouldnt have been able to look him in his all-seeing eyes
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Ferdinand_otieno wrote: 26 Sep 2019, 10:36
ElizaBeth Adams wrote: 26 Sep 2019, 08:19 Generally, the violence and eerieness of the book create an ominous ambiance that weave an uncomfortable mood throughout the story. Specifically, children being taken away from their parents was a plot point that made me feel uncomfortable.
The fate Sealers, the Game Keeper, and their unnecessary and cruel treatment of puppies and other pets were a very uncomfortable for me.
It just made me realize how cold the game keepers should must be. He would have made a great fate sealer
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