Is God Omniscient?

Marty_Kelly · Post by **Marty_Kelly** » 06 Jul 2020, 00:21

Salma_asa wrote: ↑05 Jul 2020, 12:38 I believe God is omniscient. I didn't take this book as a reference to measure God's power. I just read it as a fiction.

My point exactly.

Tochukwu Godson · Post by **Tochukwu Godson** » 06 Jul 2020, 12:27

This question appears to cynical. Anyway, God did not curse Adam and Eve. He pronounced the consequences of their action. Recall that He had told them that their eyes would open if they disobey. Therefore, when they disobeyed eventually, God told them the consequences of their action.

Tochukwu Godson · Post by **Tochukwu Godson** » 06 Jul 2020, 12:30

kdstrack wrote: ↑30 Jun 2020, 07:37
Elvis Best wrote: ↑27 Jun 2020, 13:19 In the book, I think what the author tried to do was to humanise God. God was portrayed as a being who could also make mistakes. But this goes contrary to our believe that God is omniscient.

It's a different way to look at God, and I think what the author was trying to do was to challenge our former theology about God.
I agree with you sincerely. God created humans and He possesses the attributes to which He embellished. mall/quote]
I agree that this portrayal of God felt like a challenge to former theology. It is hard for us to imagine what omniscience would really look like. All of our "super-heroes" have weaknesses (Superman, Captain America, etc.) Our comfort comes from believing that God is so much more than we could ever imagine. Making him human, someone who sins and makes mistakes, just makes God "another one of us"!!

angieray1 · Post by **angieray1** » 06 Jul 2020, 13:30

Yes, God is omniscient! He sees all and knows all! The eyes of the Lord go to and from the earth; He looks upon all the affairs of man and considers what they do.

angieray1 · Post by **angieray1** » 06 Jul 2020, 14:07

do20 wrote: ↑29 Jun 2020, 12:31 I believe that God is omniscient, he knows everything about the past, the present and the future. God was not surprised but rather angry because human being had disobeyed him.

So true!

Laurakish · Post by **Laurakish** » 07 Jul 2020, 02:52

I believe God is all- knowing, he is aware of the past, the present and the future. His knowledge is cumulative and nothing takes him by surprise. The good book says that his understanding is infinite.
I believe God gives us free will to choose right and wrong, but even if that were the case, would one argue that God knows one decision before they have acted on it?

NellyDee29 · Post by **NellyDee29** » 07 Jul 2020, 07:27

God is perfect in every way. He is omniscient. The author is simply trying to contradict God and makes Him look weak in a way. I believe that the author is trying to see if the reader truly believes in every word written on the Bible.

Mizrob · Post by **Mizrob** » 07 Jul 2020, 18:02

Yes, God is omniscient. The writer's views should be a yardstick to determine whether God is omniscient or not.

Ben97 · Post by **Ben97** » 08 Jul 2020, 03:35

B Creech wrote: ↑27 Jun 2020, 09:54
Anna Dougherty wrote: ↑25 Jun 2020, 12:45 I believe that God is omniscient, meaning that he knows all things that happened in the past, are currently happening, and will happen in the future. In Killing Able God is seemingly unaware of some of the effects of the curses he bestowed on Adam and Eve. He seems surprised that the curses did not do exactly what he had in mind. How could this happen if he is God? I think it is interesting that the author chose to portray God in this way.
Yes, that is one thing I disliked about the book. God has no weaknesses and makes no mistakes! So, He is never surprised by anything. Yes, God is omniscient.

I also concur with you on this, the author portrayed God as a Being that can make mistakes and I don't agree with that.

Henrytbab · Post by **Henrytbab** » 08 Jul 2020, 05:51

God doesn't know literally everything.
To show that God is not omniscient, one only need to point to at least one thing God can't possibly know.

But first, it is inconsistent with the concept of free will. Because if God knows the end from the beginning, it means even before we were born, God already knew all our actions from the first to the last day. Endowing humans with free will means He wanted to know what humans will do with it. He wanted to know, which means he wasn't omniscience. Otherwise, free will wouldn't be necessary.

Most people adopt the view that God is moral. If this is true, that means God does not have the knowledge of "immoral emotions or feelings." God does not know how it feels to be a liar. He does not know how it feels to be guilty, lustful or greedy. To hold that God or any entity is moral, one must sacrifice the concept of omniscience.

Marty_Kelly · Post by **Marty_Kelly** » 08 Jul 2020, 16:13

Henrytbab wrote: ↑08 Jul 2020, 05:51 God doesn't know literally everything.
To show that God is not omniscient, one only need to point to at least one thing God can't possibly know.

But first, it is inconsistent with the concept of free will. Because if God knows the end from the beginning, it means even before we were born, God already knew all our actions from the first to the last day. Endowing humans with free will means He wanted to know what humans will do with it. He wanted to know, which means he wasn't omniscience. Otherwise, free will wouldn't be necessary.

Most people adopt the view that God is moral. If this is true, that means God does not have the knowledge of "immoral emotions or feelings." God does not know how it feels to be a liar. He does not know how it feels to be guilty, lustful or greedy. To hold that God or any entity is moral, one must sacrifice the concept of omniscience.

Hmmm very different but interesting perspective. I get your point.

rwalkup · Post by **rwalkup** » 08 Jul 2020, 23:57

I think that the author did choose to portray God in a way that was not omniscient and some of the consequences did indeed take him by surprise. However, it is made clear in the Bible that God knew what consequences the curse would have, but he alludes that He already has a solution for it when He says to the serpent "You will bite his heel, but he will crush your head" which many believe refers to the coming of Christ.

Florence Nalianya · Post by **Florence Nalianya** » 09 Jul 2020, 00:29

In this book the author has not displayed God as such.

A Y reviews · Post by **A Y reviews** » 09 Jul 2020, 04:20

Well talking about this, I didn't like how the author saw God here. Our God is everywhere always. And he is all-knowing, yet the reason he seems to look as if he doesn't know is that he already gave is free will.