Does it matter that little Tony is black?
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Re: Does it matter that little Tony is black?
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You make a good argument about black superhero doing ordinary things as depicted in the book. Is it the author's intention? I really do hope that the subsequent books have major changes.
You made a point to ponder about! Thanks. I'll be more vigilant next time.

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The last thing I want is my child noticing that Toni is a black superhero. I want her to notice that he is doing great things and is a help to those around him. If black is the only thing she notices I'm missing the mark on my parenting.
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This is what I gathered as well. When I read through the book, I just felt that there was emphasis placed on Toni doing everyday activities - perhaps suggesting that ordinary kids can do extraordinary things.bookowlie wrote: ↑01 Jul 2018, 08:16 Christinaro - Interesting question! I didn't view it as black kids can only do ordinary things while the superpowers belong to the white kids. For me, the story showed that important people (superheroes) still do ordinary activities and chores like everyone else.
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I completely get what you are saying. I noticed that Toni is black, but there wasn't anything jarring about that. I didn't consider that there may be a social agenda behind his character.Bianka Walter wrote: ↑01 Jul 2018, 10:30 The fact that Toni is black didn't even register on my radar until this thread. So I obviously felt none of the above.
And I don't think it will for kids either. They just see another kid, it's us adults that notice the colour![]()
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This is pretty much exactly how I feel, too. I thought that the focus was more on how Toni could relate to other children because they enjoy the same things, and also that Toni understands the importance of doing chores and sleeping when it's time, etc.MsTri wrote: ↑01 Jul 2018, 12:16 As a black parent - and now grandparent - it didn't even occur to me that such a comparison could be made. I was focused on the lesson that even superheroes do chores AND enjoy it... In my review, I did mention Tony's color, but I did so as a positive -
I like that the hero in question is a boy of color. In a genre where the superheros have historically been fair-skinned, it's important for little African-American children to see heroes who look like themselves. Since Black Panther is making a splash at the box office, the timing is on-point for our little hero.
The quote from your review is spot on. All children should feel included, even in the world of superheroes and Disney princesses. I'm a Pacific Islander, and I grew up constantly feeling either underrepresented or misrepresented. Today, my children can watch characters like Moana, and strong actors like Dwayne Johnson and Jason Momoa.
I do think it matters that Toni is black, but not because of any hidden agenda. I think it's important for children to feel relevant and represented, and to know that they are in no way inadequate.
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When I saw this topic I asked myself that same question - "Would you ask this question if the child were white?"kfwilson6 wrote: ↑01 Jul 2018, 20:32 I agree with Bianka's initial statement that I wasn't even fazed by the color of Toni's skin. I hope children do not look at this book and notice either. When I was in elementary school I remember it was a primarily white school, and there was a brother and sister who were the only black kids I remember in my grade. I remember being friends with both of them, and I don't think the color of their skin was something I noticed at that time. Attitude, behavior, values, those are things that matter when you get to know someone.
I don't really like this question because I think it draws too much attention to something that shouldn't even be relevant about this book. Would you ask this question if the child were white? The only way I can really see it making a difference is to parents. Do you think white parents are less likely to buy this book because it is a black boy? Do you think black parents are more likely to buy it?
While I do think it's important that Toni is black, the question posed in this thread never even crossed my mind. I think it's important for kids to feel included; to see other kids like them in books like this. I really think the only agenda the author had was to help us teach our children to read, and maybe show them that superheroes do chores, too.
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I do agree that it's easier to see yourself in a superhero if he or she looks like you.hadizasalisu wrote: ↑05 Jul 2018, 12:27 To be honest I think so, Toni being black is important because because little children of colour don't have a lot of literature to fall back on, and we all know its easier to see yourself in a superhero if they look like you, but I'm also a bit on the fence that teaching children about colour very young might be bad, what'd you think?
I think it's important to teach children about culture and heritage more so than skin color. Learning about your family's history can be interesting and fun, and can foster a feeling of belonging. If parents are also talking about and modeling tolerance and acceptance, then any discussions about color should be far less difficult to tackle, if the discussion is ever even necessary. Children will notice when people look different, and we have the ability to influence whether these differences are viewed as negative or positive.
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After that, children can relate their lives to his, since he enjoys ordinary things, too. That's important when you're developing a sense of self-worth -- you see there's a superhero who does the same things you do.
In the three books to come, the author discusses how Toni loves vegetables, likes to read, and then saves the day. It seems from that order, that the author is trying to focus on being a good person and developing good habits first. I definitely don't think it's her intention to downplay Toni's abilities.
Also, if I were writing a superhero book, I would likely make the hero look like my sons. There would be no hidden agenda, just a way for me to add something personal to the story. I'm pretty sure that the author simply created a character that her own sons could relate to, and there isn't anything wrong with that.
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My thoughts exactly.Bianka Walter wrote: ↑01 Jul 2018, 10:30 The fact that Toni is black didn't even register on my radar until this thread. So I obviously felt none of the above.
And I don't think it will for kids either. They just see another kid, it's us adults that notice the colour![]()